Kundalini Syndrome

[Redregon]

posted this link in another thread, but i think it bears it's own.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kundalini_Syndrome

someone mentioned that this is one of the risks of pushing yourself too hard and trying to grasp something too soon (as in, before you're ready to accept it.)

and i believe him. if one awakens to kundalini or other forms of meditative awareness/awakening/enlightenment and they aren't able to handle it, it can cause issues such as a strong sense of depersonalization (he mentioned it's like trying to put your soul back in it's body where it isn't going to fit anymore.) amongst other things.

so, yeah... be careful and make sure you are truly ready if you want to do things like opening your chakras, or reach for enlightenment.

and yes, i am aware that this isn't directly related to Psionics... however, i do feel it is a real concern.

[Rath]

he would be correct, i'll back it up later with some evidence

[Caz]

Thanks for the heads-up.


Caz

[mrco.gllrdo]

Thanks for the heads-up. I want to keep this topic alive, so I'll post my question here. How do you know if you're ready to experience opening your chakras? Honestly, I'm a little bit afraid of opening them. I guess I just have a notion that something bad might happen if I do. It's a notion that just won't go away until I've experienced it for myself. Any opinions if I should/n't do it?

[Redregon]

Thanks for the heads-up. I want to keep this topic alive, so I'll post my question here. How do you know if you're ready to experience opening your chakras? Honestly, I'm a little bit afraid of opening them. I guess I just have a notion that something bad might happen if I do. It's a notion that just won't go away until I've experienced it for myself. Any opinions if I should/n't do it?

as far as i know, it's not something bad really... but if you're fearful of what could happen then that fear would likely manifest.

only think i can suggest is to learn to really listen to your mind and body. i'm sure that you'll know when the time is right (and i'd wager that some of your chakras are already open.)

[mrco.gllrdo]

Oh man, I took like a test not too long ago. I think 2 chakras of mine were open? Brb, going to get my sheet of results.

Okay...So supposedly from a test I took my third eye and crown is open. The ones that aren't active is my heart (which is believable) and my navel chakra. -63% :O

[Chubysnow]

So my way of telling if your ready for these things...

If you aren't sure if you are ready for it you aren't ready... you can screw up your life with this stuff.

[mrco.gllrdo]

I can. But I need to learn the things I will with chakras open. Of course, I don't really need to but want to. You get the idea though. You know which dream I want to complete chubysnow :D

[Echo]

Going through Kundalini can also lead to intense and constant states of hallucination. You either get really, really good at separating illusion from reality, or you go insane. Still not sure which direction I went, but know that if you go through Kundalini like I did, you'll most definitely face every fear you have, even if you don't realize that you fear it. Making the switch from visual to tactile visualization helped a bit with the illusions. Overall, I think I'm stronger for having gone through it, even though it cost me the last shreds of sanity that I had.

[Redregon]

I can. But I need to learn the things I will with chakras open. Of course, I don't really need to but want to. You get the idea though. You know which dream I want to complete chubysnow :D

to be honest i'm mixed as to suggest wether to work at it or not... though, understand that it's not a quick thing either. these things take time.

on one hand, you're young, so you may be at an advantage in that you haven't ingrained too many behaviors that could hinder you... it's easier to wipe a slate clean when you have little to wipe off.

but on the other hand, since you're young, you are still likely unsure of your place in the world. as such, you could find out things that might make you have trouble working as a person in the world. you could even go so far as to cause issues (for example, you might start to think that the entire education system is meant to keep you clouded and insecure or other such nonsense which would cause some major issues if you have career goals... or even just a desire to be self sufficient as an education is meant to help you broaden your knowledge so that you can be better armed to survive in the adult world.)

what i Will suggest is to do meditation. try and connect with your subconsciousness and learn to hear it when it speaks to you. learn to differentiate between it and your ego (as your ego WILL try and tell you that it's your sub-c sometimes.) the ego itself has only one goal... to keep itself alive and active. as such, sometimes it will cause you to choose paths that will lead to suffering as through suffering, your ego can then strengthen itself (as in, i am X because i have suffered.)

if you're interested, may i suggest looking into some of the eastern philosophies? more specifically, look into the philosophical tenets of kundalini so that you are at the least aware of some of the ideals that it outlines. maybe Taoism as well.

also, might i suggest something like yoga or Tai-chi or Qi-gong. it can help to connect with your inner self and can also benefeit your physical body with the exercise and flexibility that it can give you.

past that, i agree with ChubbySnow on this one... if you wonder if you're ready, chances are you aren't ready. these things... well, when you're ready, you'll just "know."

[mrco.gllrdo]

to be honest i'm mixed as to suggest wether to work at it or not... though, understand that it's not a quick thing either. these things take time.

on one hand, you're young, so you may be at an advantage in that you haven't ingrained too many behaviors that could hinder you... it's easier to wipe a slate clean when you have little to wipe off.

but on the other hand, since you're young, you are still likely unsure of your place in the world. as such, you could find out things that might make you have trouble working as a person in the world. you could even go so far as to cause issues (for example, you might start to think that the entire education system is meant to keep you clouded and insecure or other such nonsense which would cause some major issues if you have career goals... or even just a desire to be self sufficient as an education is meant to help you broaden your knowledge so that you can be better armed to survive in the adult world.)

what i Will suggest is to do meditation. try and connect with your subconsciousness and learn to hear it when it speaks to you. learn to differentiate between it and your ego (as your ego WILL try and tell you that it's your sub-c sometimes.) the ego itself has only one goal... to keep itself alive and active. as such, sometimes it will cause you to choose paths that will lead to suffering as through suffering, your ego can then strengthen itself (as in, i am X because i have suffered.)

if you're interested, may i suggest looking into some of the eastern philosophies? more specifically, look into the philosophical tenets of kundalini so that you are at the least aware of some of the ideals that it outlines. maybe Taoism as well.

also, might i suggest something like yoga or Tai-chi or Qi-gong. it can help to connect with your inner self and can also benefeit your physical body with the exercise and flexibility that it can give you.

past that, i agree with ChubbySnow on this one... if you wonder if you're ready, chances are you aren't ready. these things... well, when you're ready, you'll just "know."
I took like a short class of qigong. It was good. Trust me when I say that I know these things are not quick. All things take time, and the time it takes vary from person to person. I also know my place in the world, no offense to you. It's the only literal thing I think about. Problems? Don't have any. Regrets? Lost that notion about 2 years ago. Hobbies? If you consider obsessions to be hobbies, then I've got some. Point is, I only think about myself. I place myself in other's shoes every now and then, but it's mostly about me. The best teacher that I know who has all of the answers to my questions is myself. And I'm still learning. I don't think about sports, nothing about love, no problems, just only myself. I had my career down since 5th grade, and probably since (I personally can't remember, but my mom said I always wanted to be a scientist). I also do have SOME issues with the education system. It's not nonsense and I understand the perspective they're coming from; the goal of the education system is to prepare you for hell that us humans have created. The only flaw in the system that is a fact is that humans are teaching other humans (though, with our advancements in technology that might change). Especially in elementary school where children are most vulnerable to new ideas (children mostly in theta state), this can be a major issue. I don't have experience with this, but the possibility of it happening is existent. Teachers are humans and naturally have problems to their goals. Most humans with problems try to seek help in any manner possible. Some seek refuge from the problems with abuse to oneself or others; others seek refuge by sharing their troubles. Teachers, naturally being humans, can choose one of the options presented. Of course, there's an option that can permanently solve the problem; however, naturally in our society we're taught those are the only solutions to our problems. Most of the time teachers choose the second option; there's also instances of the first...Anyways, that's the major flaw in our system that cannot be solved due to morality issues, lack of time, media, et cetera. It can actually be solved, don't mistake that; it would just be very difficult to do so. I'm hinting at a larger theme, a theme where the emotions of depression, hate, anxiety, etc. are erased. This can be through robots teaching the children, every teacher being taught to meditate (my recommended option), destroying the free will of teachers, and probably other options. Those three are the ones that come up in my mind at most times though. I also do meditation each day for atleast 5 minutes, so far maximum 4 hours. My ego died a long time ago. I'm willing to accept death. Hell, my dream of existence is the opposite of what my ego wants, I can tell you that. I'm going through a path that will help me achieve the goal I want, ultimately bringing me true (eternal) happiness, consisting of love and compassion. The path I'm going through is not easy though. The path consists of doubt, manic depression, true loneliness (realizing you're insignificant to the whole universe), et cetera. Once you start reaching the end you also realize other things; there is no "I" (illusion), everything is connected, fulfillness, the tendency of humans to try become individuals (seen through media), et cetera (et cetera was said because I haven't reached the final stage yet. I'm close to it, but just not yet there). The exercises have helped me, but it's not my path to go with. My path consists of only meditation and *maybe* sun-gazing, depending on how my body reacts. Qigong calms my mind, but meditation is more efficient in my thinking. Yoga definitely helps me physically relax. Tai-chi I never really tried, so that might help me also, but I doubt it (too organized). I have a feeling the goal to my enlightenment is actually really simple, but due to society's programming for 14 years (am 15) it's made to believe it's increasingly difficult. I'm learning so much things and I probably should write it down. Meditation is my main way of going down the path, and OBE's/AP if I can actually do it once lol. Btw, I'm looking into buddhism. Maybe I learn about it once or twice a month, just because it's interesting the ideals. I don't want to follow organized religion though; I don't want to start a religious flame war, so I won't say my reasons. Let's just say there's issues with the religion. I'm also starting to feel some of my chakras beginning to open, mostly the third eye. I've been seeing some shadow people with some faces here and there. I heard an angry cat yesterday at night around 12-1 AM, though it might have been real. I'm also starting to have some weird dreams, mostly about school (school year about to start for me). One night I had a dream about reading a book about alchemy. "There was this alchemist with a man one day. The alchemist was but a little boy, but his knowledge about alchemy was immense. The man, interested in alchemy asks him about it. The alchemist, seeing how the man was interested, began telling him the secrets to success. The man, for some reason, was enraged by what the boy was saying. The man, with his rage told the boy to think about it more closely. The alchemist and the man then began to argue for a long time. The alchemist, also enraged but from the man's remarks, said some weird words. In the background, there were gears working, machine noises coming closer to the alchemist. The alchemist entered the machine with a strange fellow, telling the man what was his name. The man replied "Michael A. Phelps" (Not swimmer. I don't think middle name starts with an A); with that, the alchemist and the strange man inside the machine went down through a hole. The man is no longer seen, but the view is now focusing on the alchemist and the strange man. The strange man reveals himself to the reader that he is actually Satan who came to the alchemist to take him home. The alchemist also reveals to the reader that he actually dedicated himself, possibly for the pursuit of knowledge. The alchemist, sensing a small desire for the pursuit of knowledge from Michael A. Phelps, tried to recruit him as an assistant."
I got ripped away from the book because my dream ended, but it was very interesting. I just had to let it out :D

In conclusion, I appreciate your post. Believe it or not, it made me think about my response about the education system. The response I wrote makes me feel as if it's correct about me, but I had originally wrote two other reasons why I didn't like the education system. It's the morning and I ate a lot of popcorn yesterday at around 11 PM, so that might explain (Drive-in with family) it. I'm pretty much brain dead at the moment.