ShadowKinesis

[VampiricKody]

Does anyone know any good sites teaching in the kinesis that uses shadows, and the darkness? I didn't put the name of the kinesis because I keep finding sites using different names for it.

[CrystalAthame]

Shadow is just a result of an absence of light. You would have to be able to manipulate photons. Those are all just names for PK/ Energy Manipulation. Its all the same thing...its just doing different things with it. And that also sounds pretty fluffy to me, what's the point in manipulating shadows?

[ChaosAngel]

why not manipulate shadows?! that sounds pretty cool to me!! but it would be really complicated since shadows are just the absence of light and don't really exist per-say
or you could just learn to flare dark energy... that has been a thought of mine for a wile now

[New2]

Well it sounds neat to me...

[CrystalAthame]

Will you people understand that shadow is a result of light...it doesn't exist in itself!

[Daimon]

Crystal Athame is correct.
Shadow = lack of light.
There is nothing to manipulate directly in order to "control" or "create" shadows.
The closest thing I can think of would be TPS, as you could convince someone they are seeing shadows.

[CrystalAthame]

Thank you Daimon.

[ChaosAngel]

hehehe that would be even more fun than "manipulating" shadows them selves, making people seem crazy ^-^
... but i bet to manipulate shadows you could just build a barrier to keep light from going to a spot to make it look like the shadow is moving AKA just bending light away from that place
now that would be a lot of work ^-^

[CrystalAthame]

hehehe that would be even more fun than "manipulating" shadows them selves, making people seem crazy ^-^
... but i bet to manipulate shadows you could just build a barrier to keep light from going to a spot to make it look like the shadow is moving AKA just bending light away from that place
now that would be a lot of work ^-^
It could be possible, but its useless.

[New2]

Useless??

I was thinking the same things as ChaosAngel. I know sometimes, I seem to be able to make myself see more shadow where I guess there really wasn't one or at least one so dark. Maybe that's questionable though. Due to eye stuff perhaps.

[flabbyguy]

no... manipulating light could be used to create shadows.. essentially bend it out of the way >.>

[Daimon]

For once I'm going to say this:
Before anyone else says "It can be done like this:" I want them to have done what they are describing.

[New2]

I've seen some wierd stuff, but I didn't do it on purpose (if it was me doing it). They were projected looking dark shadows. Some of them, looking back, had to have been a little more than eye stuff. Just they weren't just like melded to an actual shadow in the sense like you see your shadow on the ground & crap.

[CrystalAthame]

This is still the most useless use of PK I've seen. Shadows have no function whatsoever...unless you're looking for shade, that's about it. But if you want that...get a freaking tree! The energy that you would expend trying to bend photons that you can't even possibly be able to keep track of, would be quite large...as with most PK, so if you're going to expend large amounts of energy, at least use it for something useful. As for the shade thing...you would probably produce more heat than would be conductive to the shade, so any "cooling" that you would receive would be pretty much nullified.

[New2]

Well I'm an artist so if it looks pretty cool, I may want to draw or paint it, etc....

[Redregon]

This is still the most useless use of PK I've seen. Shadows have no function whatsoever...unless you're looking for shade, that's about it. But if you want that...get a freaking tree! The energy that you would expend trying to bend photons that you can't even possibly be able to keep track of, would be quite large...as with most PK, so if you're going to expend large amounts of energy, at least use it for something useful. As for the shade thing...you would probably produce more heat than would be conductive to the shade, so any "cooling" that you would receive would be pretty much nullified.

if you control shadow, you'd have to control light... if you can control light, you can control what people see... based on that, i'd have to disagree that using PK to control light (and therefore shadow) would be useless... though, i would doubt anyone has the ability since the most i've ever seen with PK is people spinning psi-wheels or light objects... controlling light via PK? well, how bout those inclined start with learning how to spin a psi wheel first.

[VampiricKody]

I just like the idea of a purplish blackish psi ball :3. Btw good points Daimon and Red.

[Redregon]

I just like the idea of a purplish blackish psi ball :3. Btw good points Daimon and Red.

well, you can program "yourself" to see the psi-ball as purplish black or even polkadotted flowers... but i'd think that'd increases the risk of an AO astronimcally.

kinda why having an overactive imagination and watching too many cartoons isn't all that great, especially when you want to learn things like psi. (though they can be neat for inspiration, but 90% of the time cartoons are just animated Fantasy.)

[New2]

What do you mean by an AO?

[VampiricKody]

Well, I ment like a purplish black psi ball actually made from this stuff, and ofc color see-able by scan of other psions :3 made like how these people from the kinesis websites describe as "evil thoughts" the whole ordeal of this shadowkinesis is really quite confusing, to be honest.

[CrystalAthame]

That's a whole different concept than using "shadows"...if you're making a ball of "evil thoughts" all you're doing is projecting negative emotion into a psiball...which as far as I know...is a hell of a lot easier than trying to manipulate photons...

[VampiricKody]

cool empthness :3. Tho I wonder if shadowkinesis is actually possible. Not the advanced stuff just the general things that they're talking about.

[Daimon]

People need to stop "wondering" and start TRYING.
--This relates to my thread in rants--

[CrystalAthame]

People need to stop "wondering" and start TRYING.
--This relates to my thread in rants--
Agreed...if people would try these things rather than talking about them...then maybe we wouldn't get all of these fluff threads.

[Redregon]

What do you mean by an AO?

Analytical Overlay... basically, where you're tricking yourself into seeing/feeling/hearing/sensing what you want/expect rather than what is actually there...

it's surprising to know that the brain is very adept at making it think or feel things that aren't actually happening. basically, a kind of delusion/hallucination

[New2]

Oh ok. Gotcha.

[Rath]

maybe i missed this, but light is consistant of praticles, and if shadow or darkness is the absense of light does that mean it exist with out praticles? and if has praticles, does it have a mass? and if has mass it could be used.

mind you i'm just asking

[New2]

Well I was just thinking 'shadow' as in how people describe wierd shit they see sometimes out of the corners of their eyes or whatever. Guess I wasn't too clear on what was meant... My bad if I said the wrong thing. I only based the idea off of the experiences I told ya'll about already. Plus some more experiences & some experiences of a friend.

[VampiricKody]

Instresting points about wandering!

[brenayz]

I wonder if most people ever try this stuff instead of just talkin about it. I havent been on the threads in a while and now i can move water almost into a ball but i still cant seperate it from the main source though.

[New2]

Personally I May try to think about this & experiment a tiny bit in my spare time, but I really don't seem to have any anymore. *sighs* I'm going back to college & getting a job. And I may be going full time with both. Besides, my previous experiences are still a bit confusing to me. I was thinking you could have shadow 'like' things if you could do on purpose what I saw. Put them in the corner of an already shadowy corner & voi la - deeper darkness. I did do a little with that the other day, but it was sort of an accident & I'm really not trying to screw with my eyes, which I think I projected from. Frankly, I'm scared to practice. Havn't found out if it's safe yet, hehe. I can already change the way things look to me pretty dramatically, but the process could use some refining at least so my eyes don't get tired or dry. I was just trying to help anyway.

[jammer854]

the ability to move shadow is very easypall you have to do is take the photons and move them somewhere else see simple if you have macro pk down

[MindlessInvalid]

maybe i missed this, but light is consistant of praticles, and if shadow or darkness is the absense of light does that mean it exist with out praticles? and if has praticles, does it have a mass? and if has mass it could be used.

mind you i'm just asking

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that struck me as funny, so in light of this, I'll answer in idiot speak, so as to be understood:

Shadowz iz ware less fotonz hit ur I

[Rath]

As others are seeing that a shadow is the absence
of light. Yet light as defined by Maxwell's equations and quantized by QM
is actually massless particle. What is less than nothing ? Still nothing ( - 0 = 0 ).

Second the actual notion of mass is the local potential of the Higgs field near the particle and is not
intrinsic to it. As the Higgs particle used to express mass (or it's Higgs field) still has not been observed,
it is only currently conjectured to be the case

That would be have been the proper answer to give. thanks for being an ass.

[MindlessInvalid]

correction: shadows are the perceived absence of light. Because light is the medium we use as coding for our perception of the world, an absence of light, wouldn't register as anything to us. It's the light bouncing off of objects that we perceive when we see things, not the objects themselves. So, in short, Shadows are where less photons hit your eye. Shadows aren't anything but gaps in our perception of things. There is physically nothing there to manipulate, Shadows don't exist except in our perception of things.

On a side note: i experimented with some external energies as a way to get an idea for a subtle energy model and came up with something, I'm starting a thread for anyone who is interested!