Tin Foil Practice

[Shiningwolf]

I heard about a PK practice thing where you bend and crumple a piece of tinfoil. I just want to know everything about the test, methods, et cetera. Since i lost my psiwheel i need another training method.

[Rorag]

Couldn't you just make another one? I'm just making an observation, although the method you describe is preatty cool, if someone can, please post a video.

[Shiningwolf]

The little pin i use is missing. But i want to try the foil now :(

[NoMad]

if it was me practicing PK(which i don't really) then i would switch between lighter objects and heavy objects, making sure not to overexert yourself.

[Tricky]

You dont really need to worry THAT much about over exerting yourself. If you can move a heavy object, dont go back and move light ones worrying your going to over exert yourself. That would be taking a step backwards. About the foil, yeah its good to practice with. I used to use it and move it. Or if you want it to be really hard, you can flatten the bottom instead of making it round. So you have to slide it instead. Done it before.

[Daimon]

There's a bunch of ways to do it, shape it in a half-sphere and try to wobble it, fold it and put it on a pin, etc.

[psi seeker 34]

the moast scintific psi wheel is a radiometre since it is a sealed glass globe that
has almost all the air removed from it except for one flaw. these devices are made
so that bright light can push them so you have to practice away from any sun beams
look them up on the internet the price is $10. + shipping and handleing

[Julkeus]

The problem is the magnetic field of the tin can cause a shift in your ionization. So be sure to drink some kool-aid when you're done.

[Tricky]

I never noticed anything like that.

[MindlessInvalid]

because it doesn't happen, sure there is something called the heizenburg uncertainty principle which, boiled down to stupid speak, is that in every interaction all parties involved are affected, the force that facilitates the interaction will be less prominent on the subject with the largest amount of that force, and the subject with the least will be affected the greatest. Julkeus seems to think the opposite, that the smaller force will affect the greater force more than the other way around. The truth is diamagnetism of a human body trumps paramagnetism of a bit of tin. because of all of the diamagnetic and ferromagnetic elements in the human body, any changes cause by that bit of tin will be miniscule and will be self rectifying. Magnetism doesn't even have to be involved since diamagnetism and paramagnetism are both non existent until a ferromagentic force is brought into play.
PK doesn't need to have a ferromagentic force involved. Thus I refute thee, Julkeus.

[Shiningwolf]

Yay MI knows my language, Stupid speak.
Anyways for the looks of it, tin foil looks like the perfect PK practice tool :)
I'm concentrating on just folding one of the tips upward.

[Phenyx]

Mindless the fact that I understood that speaks wonders for our teaching ability. Ever thought about teaching as a career?

[MindlessInvalid]

yes, in fact, though I'm leaning more toward naturopathy as a career.

[NoMad]

if someone could lift heavy object then using a psi wheel would be pointless tricky. my idea was that by trying to move something a bit too heavy for you, but not over exerting yourself you give yourself strength training, while moving something smaller but more times would give yourself some control.

[Maraphy]

Yay MI knows my language, Stupid speak.
Anyways for the looks of it, tin foil looks like the perfect PK practice tool :)
I'm concentrating on just folding one of the tips upward.

Tin foil........ why didn't I think of that? >_<;

[Tricky]

if someone could lift heavy object then using a psi wheel would be pointless tricky. my idea was that by trying to move something a bit too heavy for you, but not over exerting yourself you give yourself strength training, while moving something smaller but more times would give yourself some control.

I see. In my opinion though, you shouldnt move from an object until you have control of it. Then you move larger things and gain control of those too.

[Shiningwolf]

See tinfoil isn't far from a psiwheel and im doing it because i lost my pin for my psiwheel. Tinfoil would also be more affirming when you finally move it.

[Shiningwolf]

I dunno if i did it, but i flattened the foil before i practiced and when i was done i looked carefully at it and there were "bubble" type ripples in it.

[NoMad]

did you maybe heat up the foil? also tricky the same principal works for physical strength as well, by lifting something thats at the limit of your body you do strength training, but while doing many light weight exercises you gain speed, endurance and dexterity.

and before you say then you shouldn't try using PK with anything too heavy then think, for every beginner the psi wheel is too much of a problem at first, does that mean that we shouldn't try to move it?

[Tricky]

I dont know what you were asking me, but I think you should move from one object to the next after its easy to move, and you have at least a bit of control over it. If you dont have control of something you shouldnt have moved on from it in the first place IMO.

[Shiningwolf]

Nomad both strength training and weight training should be balanced. I believe you should do something a little ahead of you (the foil) then when you get control over it keep practicing until you gain a pretty fair control of it. Like if your trying to lift 15 pounds and do strength training with it but its too much, it won't work. So do weight training with it until it becomes so easy you can go back to strength training with it. Foil is at about the same level as a psiwheel, maybe a little bit ahead.
Maybe i did heat it up, but there were none of the ripples you get when you heat up foil. Probably though, i'll just keep at it.

[NoMad]

just try it out, i've been told that trying to lift something using PK for instance a pencil, made it ridiculously easier to manipulate stuff like a psi wheel.

and tricky i was actually asking shining the question, then clarifying what i was talking about to you, sorry for the confusion.

[Tricky]

Oh alright. S'all good. :) Btw, yeah I've seen that happen too. If I practice on something really big I cant move for a while then go back, what I can move will move much better.

[Julkeus]

because it doesn't happen, sure there is something called the heizenburg uncertainty principle which, boiled down to stupid speak, is that in every interaction all parties involved are affected, the force that facilitates the interaction will be less prominent on the subject with the largest amount of that force, and the subject with the least will be affected the greatest. Julkeus seems to think the opposite, that the smaller force will affect the greater force more than the other way around. The truth is diamagnetism of a human body trumps paramagnetism of a bit of tin. because of all of the diamagnetic and ferromagnetic elements in the human body, any changes cause by that bit of tin will be miniscule and will be self rectifying. Magnetism doesn't even have to be involved since diamagnetism and paramagnetism are both non existent until a ferromagentic force is brought into play.
PK doesn't need to have a ferromagentic force involved. Thus I refute thee, Julkeus.
I actually was just joking around. Drink kool-aid? You took that seriously? Hence, I dub thee: Mindlessus Aspergus

[MindlessInvalid]

I dub thee: Mentally Deficient Liar
If you say something be prepared to have it shot down. Unless you have some sort of hint that it's a joke, for all intents and purposes you meant it seriously, and that post you just did was an attempt to shift the attention from yourself, to me. It's laughable really. Don't even think about doing what other noobs around here do when I refute them, because I don't accept challengers, and definitely can survive a little psi blast here or there. Tell ya what... if you can refute my Run on Syllogism of why god does not exist, I'll give in to the nick name, refuse or fail, and you'll be in a world of hurt. http://www.psionguild.org/forums/showthread.php?t=3519

EDIT: I realized that might sound like a threat, well it is, but of a different sort. I will come up with embarrasing nicknames for julkeus and all of his "clansmen"