Psi Vamps Poll 2

[Phoenix]

This is for all you psi vamps out there.. Tell me, this dirty little secret.

[Ancient_Arcane]

I'm not sure how it's dirty, or a secret.

Care to explain that?

-Arcane

[NoMad]

I think it's a play on words, you know cuz vampires suck blood, thats dirty, and they generally keep it a secret. so like yeah, lol i don't think it's a serious statement just kinda a ha-ha funny statement, lol.

[G2_Wolf]

I think it's a play on words, you know cuz vampires suck blood, thats dirty, and they generally keep it a secret.
How is sucking blood dirty?

[NoMad]

umm, how is it not?

[G2_Wolf]

umm, how is it not?
Answering my question with the opposite question is just retarded and results into an "I asked first." "But I asked second." argument. Just answer my question instead of being stupid.

[NoMad]

Hmm. You got way too upset. but anywho, to certain people blood is a very disgusting thing, so it isn't all that far fetched to believe someone might think vampirism is a little dirty. (it's definitely messy)

PS now answer my question.

[Ancient_Arcane]

Hmm. You got way too upset. but anywho, to certain people blood is a very disgusting thing, so it isn't all that far fetched to believe someone might think vampirism is a little dirty. (it's definitely messy)

PS now answer my question.


Um the topic is for PSI vamps, not Sang.

[Solomons]

Damn.. so what?! Stop arguing about nothing dammit.

A vampire (if the community believed them to be real) would be shunned because they were different, or because of the parasitic nature of being a vampire, whether sang or psi. (so the blood itself in essence doesn't matter in the minds of most, just the fact that a vampire is taking something from someone else)

On that note, I'm not calling any vampires out there parasites.

[Phoenix]

dirty, as in the interaction between two energies can delude... causing it to be dirty. hehe, anicent.

[Daimon]

Solomons, I don't agree really, I'm a Sang and I have not been shunned. :)

[Solomons]

Solomons, I don't agree really, I'm a Sang and I have not been shunned. :)

I didn't really make myself clear.. I didn't mean the vampiric/psionic community would be shunning.. I was more talking about "normal" people. If you told someone on the street, or they knew about one's sanguine nature, I think they would be repelled or have some similar reaction to this.

I mean really, most people don't believe in vampires at all, and would think that if one was drinking blood, it would have to be due to some sort of fetish.

Now with the mind-set that most people have been brought up with (largely due to a world-wide organisation which will for now remain un-named) it would be classed as/though of as being "dirty".

Err, Have I made sense yet, or am I rambling?

[WingedPower]

Depending on where you live, most people would just brush it off these days as another "fad" or "alternative lifestyle" thing.

I wouldn't give it a public tryout in more religiously minded regions of the world, but for the most part, for better or for worse, it just gets pigeon holed by the masses.

I mean, seriously, you have blood pudding and blood soup in various parts of the world. You've got people consuming raw fish, internal organs are delicacies, and brain... it's what's for dinner.

I would say that in today's climate, drinking human blood is by far, much lower on the stigma totem.

Most people I know wouldn't bat an eye. They'd ask if you're concerned about health risks, then talk about it over a bloody rare steak for lunch, or over some raw fish.

Ultimately, it really depends on where you live and the culture in that region, but for the most part, people tend to be a bit less openly critical and so long as your monies good and you aren't out causing trouble, they really don't care.

Unless, of course, you're a photographer trying to photograph a bridge, in which case, you're screwed.

WP.

[byrningpheonix15]

Its not that I need to,but helps as a supplement.

[Daimon]

If you don't need to feed, then you're not likely a psivamp.

[Zadig]

Hey Daimon, what happens to you if you don't feed? Will you Die?

I don't care that you suck blood, i just kinda have a hard time believing that a human being needs blood to survive. In some religions the reson that taking blood is a no no is that it represents life force and the creators right to it.

but if you will die without it then that theory goes out the window.

[Daimon]

No I won't die as a direct effect.
However, it seems that my immunesystem goes out the window if I don't feed, I catch anything and everything going around. Unless I feed and seem to have a higher then usual resistance.

[thegrogen]

No I won't die as a direct effect.
However, it seems that my immunesystem goes out the window if I don't feed, I catch anything and everything going around. Unless I feed and seem to have a higher then usual resistance.

Almost sounds like something related to AIDS... Maybe you HAVE no immune system, and thus the supplements from blood are giving you enough antibodies to stay healthy or something. I'm not a biologist...

[Daimon]

My doctors have never seen any problem with my immunesystem.
If I had no immunesystem I would be dead by now.

[Zadig]

Or maybie, since the mind is extremely powerful, you have convinced yourself that you need blood so completely that when you don't drink it your mind tricks your body into haveing negative physical reactions.

basically i'm pretty sure that if you stop believing you need blood, then eventually your body will adapt to life without blood and you would be perfectly fine. immune system and all.

Humans were'nt made to drink blood. Study's have shown that blood holds absolutely no nutritional value whatsoever. Your body just treats it like waste.

I guess what i'm getting at is that there are no true vampires.

Sorry Daimon.

Feel free to offer your evidence of why I am wrong.

[Jehosaphat]

AHH!
lol. where do you get blood?

[The Unknown]

Humans were'nt made to drink blood.

Humans weren't made to be allergic to nuts, either, but some still are. Besides, what makes you think vampirism has to be caused by a physical or psychological problem. While it can be caused by physical aspects, such as genetics, I believe the condition is caused by an energetic problem.

[NoMad]

as far as i know, blood contains core energy, which is something we need, daimon doesn't create it naturally, therefore the easiest way to get core energy is via blood which is full of the stuff.

[Zadig]

... guess that makes sense...

and to unknowns point, people weren't originally made to die either. It is just our current state of imperfection that makes us have diseases and other problems...

...like Daimons problem with energy deficiency, which would then lead to vampirism which is an unnatural, but in this case necessary by-product of imperfection...

...Vampirism makes sense now...

[Daimon]

Why would I bother with proving you wrong?
I know what I am, I know what I need, I know what happens if I don't get it.
You may believe what you want, I don't care really.
If you want to know more about vampyrism, go look it up.
Humans weren't made to drive cars either. Or fly a plane. Or survive falling from high places. But for some reason we do.
If you want information, google it, or ask me for links, or whatever.
But don't clutter up this thread which is about psivamps, with posts about me, blooddrinking and Sang vampyrism.

[Zadig]

You're right this thread is about psivamps. I will no longer argue about wheather it is right or wrong or even real.

And I won't entertain your rediculous argument about humans being ment to use technologies that we invented with our intellect.

I will bother you no more.

[Daimon]

Awesome, bother me no more.

[miri]

... guess that makes sense...

and to unknowns point, people weren't originally made to die either. It is just our current state of imperfection that makes us have diseases and other problems...

...like Daimons problem with energy deficiency, which would then lead to vampirism which is an unnatural, but in this case necessary by-product of imperfection...

...Vampirism makes sense now...

Everything alive is designed to die... that's how the circle of life stays... a circle.

[Winged_Wolf]

I'm afraid miri is correct. People most definitely WERE made to die. We have a built-in expiration date.

[NoMad]

yeah, i'm still trying to figure out the best way to how would you say, set forward my expiration date.

[Psi-Guy]

I'm sure cannibals feel the need to eat babies too, otherwise they think they'll die. It's the power of suggestion. It's strong stuff.

[rowinha]

Humans were'nt made to drink blood. Study's have shown that blood holds absolutely no nutritional value whatsoever. Your body just treats it like waste.

I guess what i'm getting at is that there are no true vampires.

Sorry Daimon.

Feel free to offer your evidence of why I am wrong.

Ahem.


Traditionally, the Maasai rely on meat, milk and blood from cattle for protein and caloric needs. People drink blood on special occasions. It is given to a circumcised person (o/esipolioi), a woman who has given birth (entomononi) and the sick (oltamueyiai). Also, on a regular basis drunk elders, ilamerak, use the blood to alleviate intoxication and hangovers. Blood is very rich in protein and is good for the immune system. However, its use in the traditional diet is waning due to the reduction of livestock numbers.


I love the Maasai; they're fascinating. They're a group of pastoralists that wander(ed) the Sahel region in sub-Saharan Africa. Blood used to be a key part of their diet (is less now, what with globalization impinging on their believes and globalization impinging on their land, and globalization dwindling their numbers, but... if it weren't for preexisting taboos and stigmas, there would be no argument about whether drinking blood was acceptable or not.

...Just like any other taboo or stigma.


Think about this: "Maasai believe that tilizing the land for crop farming is a crime against nature." And that drinking blood is fine.

[notagh]

I don't think I am a psivamp, but if I get too weak, I sometimes vamp.

Not from people tho.

[ChaosAngel]

I used to think I was a psy vamp. but it was really because I kept manipulating too much of my internal energy out of me, and so I would need to refill myself via psy vamp.
so I only really feed when I over exert myself but that hardly happens anymore.

[javaylen]

latley i have done a LOT of psi-vamping, i mean a LOT, and i have become dependant on it like it was a drug, like the endless plate of fedduccini alfrado accompanied by a never ending stomach paired with years of starvation. i psi-vamp every waking hour, its odd, the energy from people(not so much animals) "tastes" extremely better than any other. if i go without doing so, i get a really bad headache and get really hungry. i started constantly vamping as an experiment to see if prolongued action would alter my energy system to need it and weather i was right or it is all in my head, i NEED it and i never used to be a psi-vamp, even after i "awakened"
EDIT:does this post make me look like a jerk/creep?

[Empathy Born]

it's like a drug, javaylen. you became addicted to psi. You aren't a vamp, but you are instead an addict. "you just tried" it, and got hooked. quit cold turkey, man. try sunflower seeds, or gum. lol. anti-psi gum. someone get him a pack.

[Serenity Dragon]

Empathy has a point. If you get hungry, just eat something, don't eat someone's energy. As for the headaches, I was told that its normal for psions to have them. I get them daily now, and maybe try aspirin/something.

[ChaosAngel]

unfortunately you can't just quit cold turkey psi vamping... you need to understand why you are vamping before you can even think of quitting ... why do you need more energy than before? maybe you are growing? or maybe it is something else...

[Empathy Born]

or maybe he actually is a psi vamp, or maybe... BIG DRUMROLL

He should just quit! Again with the anti psi addiction gum. I hear it now comes in peppermint, fruit, and the new flavor of Human, for realistic psi flavor!

[Daimon]

Yeah just because someone vamps other people, doesn't mean they're a psivamp.

[NoMad]

Is it normal for people that vamp to not be a psi vamp but also get a bunch of physical energy from psi? As if they chugged a bunch of energy drinks?

[ChaosAngel]

yeah I think it is...

[NoMad]

UPDATE: Yeah I got word it was relatively normal.

[Neeros]

It just starts to get weird when you're thinking of people as food instead of people.

[Avkon]

People are the source of food, not the food themselves. Besides, this topic is about Psi Vamps.

[jammer854]

of course its dirty AIDS?

[Redregon]

of course its dirty AIDS?

that HIV and AIDS is a blood borne and sexually transmitted disease is not saying that sanguinarian vampirism is dirty, just, one more precaution to take.

i'm not a vamp (i had wondered if i was, but i know i'm not...) but i have read up about it and talked to some about it... if there's a sang out there that's being an idiot and feeding on whomever is willing without taking any precautions to protect themselves, then yeah... i'd say that's kinda dirty... but seriously, most sang vamps are so cautious (almost to the point of OCD) about what they drink (and rightly so... there's a lot of scary shit that can be transmitted by blood) that i wouldn't say dirty... shocking, maybe... creepy (for those that take the stereotype a BIT too far) possably, but dirty? not really.

besides, if a sang weren't to take all the precautions they do before feeding, i'd bet they'd live a very, very short life.

[blade de fire]

for blood vamps psi makes us sic to our stoics

[blade de fire]

raw meat works just as well as blood but cow isn't that grate

[Solem]

Matt, grammar. Please? Seriously, I can barely understand you.

[akesouku]

about once a day:P though Im not sure if Im actualy a psi vamp or just someone who drains energy

[Moorehouse]

I still hate you for draining me^ T_T

[Nightimer]

thats a really good question . . .I seriously can't remember the last time I WASN'T feeding (energy, that is. bloods a completely diff matter.). . .Its a habit for me, i suppose, because I get sick if I don't. (No, not "having withdrawals" kind of sick, i mean literaly seriously ill.)

Basically I automaticaly feed from everyone I meet, most don't notice it because I've had more than enough practice at slipping under shield's and taking small amounts at a time.

Hah! The words "energy slut" just come to mind.

And why does every thread with a sang in it have to turn into an interrogation or a debate?

[TheWolf]

Absorption of energy is different than feeding on energy.
Feeding indicates a need for the person to do so or they will suffer adverse effects. It's quite possible for a psion to absorb and manipulate that energy, but without a need for it I wouldn't consider it feeding.

[mrco.gllrdo]

I'm not a vampire and I don't NEED to feed, however if I'm about to faint I feed only to boost up my energy levels. I try not to do it whenever though.

[HuK]

Exactly what is psi vamping, and how do you do it?

I mean, I get the basic premise. Taking psi from others. I just don't see why, how, or what effect this has on the person from whom you're taking psi.

Pardon my ignorance - I'm new here.

[Pat McDonald]

I would guess it means different things to different people.

This thread gives a few clues.

http://www.psionguild.org/forums/showthread.php?t=4916&highlight=vamp

I was recommended the book "The Celestine Prophecy" by a totally untrustworthy and dubious source... but it does give some sort of background to the issues.

(Sorry Greg, but you know bloody well it goes with the territory... and I'm sure you've done some amazing and incredible things, it's just my prejudice).