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WingedPower
09-30-2007, 03:20 PM
Saw this in the postings online today:
http://www.physorg.com/news110191847.html
Apparently, a strong enough electrical field through water, can allow you to manipulate water to do things you wouldn't otherwise thought possible, like restructure the water itself to form a bridge between two beakers in the air.
Would be interesting to see if Psi can be employed in such a manner as to induce an electrical voltage through the water to create such an effect or to manipulate water to such a degree.
WingedPower
thegrogen
10-11-2007, 04:30 AM
Entirely possible due to the fact that water is a polar molecule. Charge a comb by running it through your hair and hold it next to a running stream of water and see how the stream bends.
All you really need is enough concentration of charges in the right places (static charges, not a running current).
Roagia
10-24-2007, 01:18 PM
Magnetic and Electric Effects on Water
Water, being dipolar, can be partly aligned by an electric field and this may be easily shown by the movement of a stream of water by an electrostatic source . Very high field strengths (5 x 109 V m-1) are required to reorient water in ice such that freezing is inhibited . Even partial alignment of the water molecules with the electric field will cause pre-existing hydrogen bonding to become bent or broken. The balance between hydrogen bonding and van der Waals attractions is thus biased towards van der Waals attractions giving rise to less cyclic hydrogen bonded clustering.
Water is diamagnetic and may be levitated in very high magnetic fields (10 T, compare Earth's magnetic field 30 μT) . Lower, but still powerful, magnetic fields have been shown, in simulations, to increase the number of monomer water molecules but, rather surprisingly, they increase the tetrahedrality at the same time. They may also assist clathrate formation. The increase in refractive index with magnetic field has been attributed to increased hydrogen bond strength. Weak magnetic fields have also been shown to increase the evaporation rate. These effects are consistent with the magnetic fields weakening the van der Waals bonding between the water moleculesa and the water molecules being more tightly bound, due to the magnetic field reducing the thermal motion of the inherent charges by generating dampening forces. Due to the fine balance between the conflicting hydrogen bonding and non-bonded interactions in water clusters, any such weakening of the van der Waals attraction leads to a further strengthening of the hydrogen bonding and greater cyclic hydrogen bonded clustering. This effect of the magnetic field on the hydrogen bonding has been further supported by the rise in the melting point of H2O (5.6 mK at 6 T) and D2O (21.8 mK at 6 T) and the 3°C .
Since psi is related to electromagnetic fields..... I'd say it can be manipulated very well!
The Silent One
11-03-2007, 08:28 PM
I have to try this. It would be awesome to control water in such a way.
Manipulator
05-15-2008, 05:00 AM
I might just have to look into this. It looks pretty interesting.
thegrogen
05-15-2008, 06:16 AM
Maybe a test for an electro-PK experiment?
Renik
05-15-2008, 07:44 PM
Sounds plausible, but can anyone really produce a strong magnetic field to move water easily, let alone make it levitate?
WTVelocity
05-15-2008, 08:27 PM
Interesting, using electrokineses to form hydrokinesis.
Another factor blurring the different forms of PK, making us call it just "PK", rather than relentlessly trying to break it down.
MindlessInvalid
05-15-2008, 10:08 PM
what different forms of pk?
Renik
05-16-2008, 02:06 AM
aerokinesis, pyrokinesis, electrokinesis, all those fluffy sounding names, basically anything with a 'kinesis' at the end that doesn't start with tele or psycho.
Personally I rather categorized all these techniques under Micro-psychokinesis since they all involve psychokinesis on a molecular level.
WTVelocity
05-16-2008, 04:27 AM
As do all of the "brands" of PK.
Just a note: Micro-PK is a term already in use for using the mind to influence probability chances, such as getting a card in a deck, or a certain die roll.
All the "sub forms" of PK are still just called PK, the macro form (which no one really uses bc I dont know anyone who likes the micro-pk theory, personally.
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