Practice ideas for PK

[krazrkool]

So, I'm looking to start practice in the psychokinesis (telekinesis, for some of you :D) and I'm wondering what might be the best practice tool- the infamous psi wheel, or something else? I appreciate any and all suggestions.

[Winged_Wolf]

In my opinion, psi-wheels are among the absolute WORST possible tools for PK practice. They are exceptionally reactive to vibrations, air currents, and other non-psi-related phenomena. Just about anything will make one move. The VAST majority of the time, the cause of a psi-wheel's spinning is nothing other than the breath of the person trying to use it.

If you MUST use a psi-wheel, put it somewhere where passing footsteps and cars will not cause vibration, put it UNDER GLASS (completely sealed from air flow), and keep your body parts away from it so you don't create air movement inside due to heat.

A better choice is a simple jar with a tight-fitting lid. Suspend a light weight from a thread by taping it to the inside of the lid. Close the jar, voila--a PK practice tool. Keep it away from vibrations, it's also prone to movement due to vibration in the room.

If you don't want to seal the object under glass, then I recommend choosing something less ambiguous, such as a pen. Put it on a flat surface, and try to make it roll. Again, as always, beware of vibrations. Contrary to what seems to be popular opinion, it really doesn't require THAT much more effort to move a slightly heavier object like a pen than it does a psi wheel.
People who use PK in an uncontrolled fashion are shutting doors, rolling up window blinds, knocking objects off of shelves, pushing glasses...they are not making a tiny piece of paper wibble.

[krazrkool]

In my opinion, psi-wheels are among the absolute WORST possible tools for PK practice. They are exceptionally reactive to vibrations, air currents, and other non-psi-related phenomena. Just about anything will make one move. The VAST majority of the time, the cause of a psi-wheel's spinning is nothing other than the breath of the person trying to use it.

If you MUST use a psi-wheel, put it somewhere where passing footsteps and cars will not cause vibration, put it UNDER GLASS (completely sealed from air flow), and keep your body parts away from it so you don't create air movement inside due to heat.

A better choice is a simple jar with a tight-fitting lid. Suspend a light weight from a thread by taping it to the inside of the lid. Close the jar, voila--a PK practice tool. Keep it away from vibrations, it's also prone to movement due to vibration in the room.

If you don't want to seal the object under glass, then I recommend choosing something less ambiguous, such as a pen. Put it on a flat surface, and try to make it roll. Again, as always, beware of vibrations. Contrary to what seems to be popular opinion, it really doesn't require THAT much more effort to move a slightly heavier object like a pen than it does a psi wheel.
People who use PK in an uncontrolled fashion are shutting doors, rolling up window blinds, knocking objects off of shelves, pushing glasses...they are not making a tiny piece of paper wibble.

Thank you very much for the information. I will give it my best shot- and post my results as they occur. :D

[stoppable408]

but winged wolf, wouldnt you agree that seeing as psi wheels move so easily, that it could be used as a pretty good practie model for PK, because even if it does move by the slightest breeze, it boosts self-confidence in PK and part of Pk is belief

[Winged_Wolf]

No, I disagree entirely. Belief is tremendously overrated, and can even be harmful. If an air current moves the psi-wheel, and you think you did it, then you're going to have a pleasure-reaction (in your brain) due to the satisfaction and excitement of your apparent success. This means you've just given your subconscious positive feedback for doing NOTHING. This is bad.
You do not want to believe things that are not TRUE. You can't train your mind to do PK reliably if it doesn't know what it's actually supposed to be doing. Faith is NOT required to do PK. But believing you have succeeded when you have not can seriously set you back.

[stoppable408]

oh.... i see how that can be correct

[NoMad]

Personally as most of you know i believe most psi activity resides in a subconscious layer of the brain, meaning that positive reinforcement learning is good, but only when your actually learning, much like a dog, if you give it treats when it's good it will innately be good more often, but if give it treats when it's bad it will be bad all the time, so like WW stated if you let you mind think that what your doing is correct when it's not then you will never actually pick up on PK, in fact, it's possible to irreversibly teach yourself how not to, kinda like riding a bike, except that all you did was learn how to crash. Plus, over the years i have learned that faith is highly over rated, in fact at times i do some of my best work when i don't believe i can, but what i want to do is push myself and see how much i can instead.

[ll_Nightwolf_ll]

Hey well whats after the psi-wheel then? What did you guys work after that?

[G2_Wolf]

psi-wheel under a glass container.... pencil.... bottlecap..

Have your choice.

[Spirit Fox]

what method would you use to move a bottle cap?

[nirvanic demon]

hey ww is it okay to practice with a ping pong ball under a glass container

[miri]

Congratulations... you made me involuntarily sigh.

[nirvanic demon]

what do you mean????????

[NoMad]

Depends, is the surface your on flat, and will it move with vibrations?

[nirvanic demon]

yes the surface is flat but the ball doesnt usually move with vibrations cuz i practice in a very quiet place!!!!!!

[NoMad]

Than it should work pretty good.

[nirvanic demon]

it didn't work yet but i'm still patient hey nomad can you tell me about your abilities, it really boosts my confidence when i hear other people talking about themselves (their abilities)

[NoMad]

Um alrighty, I can read minds, as long as the persons within eye shot of me, I can read emotions too, but thats not really hard. I can successfully speak to my subconscious(which answers my questions 100% correctly, even if I read the answers wrong). I'm getting pretty good at sensing life (I once sensed a police officer from 3 blocks away before I could even see him,kept me from speeding past him, lol) Umm, I'm not good with PK. I'm alright with energy manipulation and i'm a good programmer. Anything else?

Almost forgot, I've done some Telepathic suggestion before to.

[nirvanic demon]

cool but were you born with this abilitie and do you have any methods that i can use to learn it????????

[miri]

In most cases there is some born ability and some further development in varying ratios, it's actually pretty rare to find a true non.

[NoMad]

I was born with everything except Speaking the my SubCon, and I was born with passive telepathy and simply learned how to actively use it. As far as I know I learned energy manipulation.

I read everything from psipog(all the articles anyways) and practiced mostly what it says about telepathy. (I also practice Nen).

[nirvanic demon]

yes i've read the articles from psipog, but the problem is that i have no one to practice with.even my own friend laughs at me when i talk to him about psionics!!!!!!!!!!! and by the way, for how long do you practice nen each day and have you tried the leaf exercise????????

[NoMad]

Currently I just try and practice it when I get free time(and before i go to sleep) which is usually only ten to twenty minutes each day.(I'm a busy man).

As far as practicing goes, depends on what you want to practice, as for telepathy I just keep my mind open to thoughts at all times, or I target someone on an individual basis, though if you have ethical reasons why you wouldn't want to invade peoples mind then I don't recommend that way to go about training.
And for Speaking with your subconscious theres not really a lot to say, just read the article on psipog, ask your SubCon questions, and based on what you get back figure out the answer, after awhile you'll realize exactly how to solve the riddle known as the subconscious mind.

[nirvanic demon]

so you mean that when you speak to your subcon you really hear a voice in your head, just like when somebody's talking to you or the answer you want just pops into your head and how long did it take you to achieve it?????????

[NoMad]

I don't get a voice, nor do I get an exact answer, it's like this, I'll get images, sounds, certain feelings and emotions and such. At first you don't really understand what it all means, but after you've been doing it for awhile you begin to realize the subtleties that give you the answers to your questions.

[nirvanic demon]

ahhhh.... ok thanks.