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smokyboa
05-19-2006, 05:34 AM
Hi

I need some help with something.
I have reason to suspect that I may be a target of a hostile.
I don't know at all how to shield against psychic attack, if you could help me out, it would be appreciated (something different to shielding maybe?). If you could also help me to find a way to "hide" (cloak) that would be a bonus.



Thanks!

PS I posted this on PsiWorld as well to get more feedback.

Ramza
05-19-2006, 06:37 AM
The website has articles on shielding in the education department.

I think a more pressing question is: Why do you believe you are being attacked? Unless you've done something to provoke somebody, it's fairly unlikely that a psion will just pick you out at random and start attacking you.

Winged_Wolf
05-19-2006, 07:02 PM
Fairly unlikely, like a car accident, and those happen all the time. If you see my point. lol

Ramza
05-20-2006, 02:06 AM
Oh, it's definitely a very valid possibility, I just think he should look at more likely explainations first. Of course in order to asses what those explainations are he would probably need to specify details.
Of course I'm not an expert or anything.

smokyboa
05-21-2006, 05:06 AM
I was sitting at my computer. A wave went straight through me and the room visibly dimmed even though the lights were on normal brightness. I was pushed off my chair forcefully. I looked around and saw a brown shape about 7ft tall - transparent.

I backed away, but due to other phenomena in the past, I didnt panic much. As I began to gather energy to shield, I began to see energy as I usually do, I saw it flowing all around the room and washing over the shape. The shape lunged and something moved out from it (an arm? *shrugs*), I put up my hand and saw the white aura around my hand diminish as the shape moved towards me.

I sent four psiballs at the shape before I became very tired, I couldnt keep it up anymore so I called one of my guides to help me. Within minutes the shape withdrew and passed through the wall.

I don't know what it was. One thing I do know, is that I definitely was not strong enough to deter it on my own and it sliced through my several shields in one go.

My guide said that the strength of my shields depended directly upon the strength of my faith, will and intent. I guess it makes sense.

I just wanted to find out if there are specific ways to deal with such things.

Hope that is enough info. [I also hope you dont think its fluff.]

Thanks again!

smoky

Elliptic
05-21-2006, 05:39 AM
I guess the next reasonable question here is who you pissed off? Despite WW's ideation, really there aren't many people who will attack for shits and grins, and those who are capable of such don't do so unprovoked anyways - they have better things to do, really.

Hell, even Adam had reasons for what he did.

Arkhaios
05-22-2006, 09:03 AM
Heh, Ramza, you said asses...

Well smokyboa, you seem to be quite attuned to energy from the different experiences you have described. Many times, there are entities which seek to enslave, or feed off of other beings which are aware of the energy types most people don't even feel, let alone understand. If your aware and can't be controlled or used as an energy source, then most likely the baddies want to destroy you. Just because you are aware and give positive energy to your feild, and the collective consciousness of humanity, it diminishes the amount of energy exuded from fear based thought and actions, which lessens the amount of power the baddies get to feed from.

This sounds like a fairly powerful attack, especially if the lights dimmed and you were knocked out of your chair. What your spirit guide tells you is correct, faith is the most important. If you wish to deter the dark ones, you have to have faith in the divine light. Also, you may want to try making some feild linking constructs around your home, and make sure they tell you when something breaks through the feild. Try a dome, or a pyramid, something geometric. Using geomtry I feel makes things much stronger. This may give you more time to prepare yourself. Also, dark ones feed off of pain energy, they like it, so trying to deter it with force may not be an option. I've tried to slice one and beat it away before with direct attacks and it just laughed, so I tried to embrace it like I would someone I loved and it screamed in pain and fled. They don't much like that type of energy. However, they thrive off the energy produced by fear and hate.

If this happens again, if you are attacked again, try to use the energy that is produced when you have the strongest feelings of love/divinity/positivity/adoration/happiness. Think of someone you love, or the happiest times of your life, or your favorite food, a warm blanket, the sun, things that make you feel good and safe. This would be a different system of generating psi, mainly the primal ability, using strong emotion to produce it. Practice developing the strength of this emotion. If it is done right, you should feel elation/joy, warm sensations in your heart/chest area and tears may begin to form. Use this energy to shield and walk directly at your attacker. If it is a dark entitiy, it will have difficulty keeping its form and frequency because your radiant energy will be counteracting it's own. It's like sound waves, frequencies will be amplified if two of the same wavelength interact, but if opposites collide, they cancel out. Fortunately, humans get to use many different types of frequencies to remain in form, not just those of love or those of hatred, so you wont be cancled. If you use the energy produced by strong positive emotions, the entity, which seems like it is out to harm you, will have a damn hard time staying around, much less mounting an attack, providing it is indeed a dark one.

I personally don't have much direct experience with dark entities manifesting in physical space because I tend to dwell in pretty positive places, both physically and mentally. They can easily make suggestions though, and can also try to imitate your mindspeak patterns to trick you into thinking it was your own thought, but I've caught them before and they don't like mental hugs too much :smt055 Even humans who are truly affiliated towards the dark don't like mental hugs... it's painful for them. Heck, angry people in general don't really like to be hugged.

But, if this is a human projection, then you might want to think about what you did to attract this kind of attention. Although I doubt this is a human... Keep in contact with your spirit guide and let me know what it says about this tactic.

Winged_Wolf
05-22-2006, 09:09 AM
Stronger shields would definitely help...your description suggests a vamp attack, and shields have to be configured a specific way to ward that off. A slick coating ('teflon'), rapid movement, and cutting surfaces on the outside of shielding can all help prevent link attachments, and definitely deter vamp attacks.
Lobbing psi balls won't do more than annoy most things...you'll have to use more firepower than that. Shield your OPPONENT, too...inward facing mirrors are a good choice to start with.

Firestorm
05-22-2006, 08:05 PM
If it happens again, you should try and come into the chat, or contact me or WW or other staff via AIM, YIM, MSN, or whatever you happen to have. If you can hold it off long enough to get to one of us, we can probably help you fairly quickly. Other than that, it DOES seem like somebody/something was attempting to vamp you, and succeeding. WingedWolf's suggestions are very god, and I suggest you listen to her, she taught me a large portion of what I know.

I'm not sure about 'Dark' entities, though. and if somebody/something is hellbent on attacking you like you say they were, I highly doubt a psi-hug or cuddle would prevent them from doing that. In fact, it might just piss them off even more.

Winged_Wolf
05-22-2006, 08:54 PM
Well, maybe the huggles will work...if you feed the vamp, assuming its motive is taking your energy, it just might go away.
:lol:

Ramza
05-22-2006, 09:56 PM
I'm not sure about 'Dark' entities, though. and if somebody/something is hellbent on attacking you like you say they were, I highly doubt a psi-hug or cuddle would prevent them from doing that. In fact, it might just piss them off even more.

I'm inclined to agree there. I know for a fact that if I'm feeling all dark-moody that it does indeed make hugs feel very uncomfortable, but the're really just annoying, it won't really make me go away if I'm intent on staying.

Now if you were to actually make a construct in exact opposite frequency to the entity, then it makes sense that they could cancel out, but opposite emotion doesn't necesarily mean opposite frequency. Also I don't see any evidence to suggest that this entity had any emotional charge to begin with, or that it was an in-human entity at all.

Heh, Ramza, you said asses...

Dang it
*blames keyboard* :-x

G2_Wolf
05-23-2006, 03:33 AM
. WingedWolf's suggestions are very god heh.

Arkhaios
05-23-2006, 11:27 AM
well, just in my experience, aggressive things that like pain have quite an adverse reaction to compassion. Negative entities that thrive off of pain, like to be attacked, and feed from frequencies of energy emitted by emotions such as fear and hatred. They don't like it when the opposite force is applied. It's like showing a classic evil spirit a holy sign, they writhe and try to get away from it. If smokyboa is dealing with one of those types of entities, then trying to show it sincere love and compassion, which is extremely strong and capable of miraculous things, will be like creating a opposing wavelength. Love and serenity is the counterpart to hate and anger, but I know how touchy you people are about emotion...

Besides, it's not like a nice little fluffy bunny cutsie hug or cuddle, this is about embracing the attacker. It's like giving them a great big bear hug out of love for them, but they end up exploding because you loved them a little too much :-P Think of loonytoons and that girl that would always squeeze the crap out of the animals because she loved them so damn much. And yes, I am referencing disney cartoons because they have deep psychological meaning and can be used as metaphors for actual social interaction.

Winged_Wolf
05-23-2006, 02:41 PM
I'm sorry, I've simply never seen this. I've seen the 'ewww...' reaction, but never any actual damage inflicted this way, and something determined is definitely not going to let that stop them.

First, you have no way of knowing whether this was an entity, or an astrally projected person. If a person, what I said goes triply...being lovey is not a deterrant.

You need to know what the entity's motive was. That will also determine what it's most likely willing to put up with in order to achieve its goal.

And you need to know exactly what type of entity it is, if it's not human. There's nothing there to indicate a desire for fear or pain--just for starters. The only thing indicated by the description is an energy-drain attack. What makes you think this entity wouldn't simply adore being hugged?

The type of entity that would be warded off by what you are describing is most likely a stray construct that has actually been programmed to be evil/nasty, and whose creator consciously or unconsciously GAVE it that weakness. Love is not the opposite of hate, nor of fear. There's nothing inherent in it which would be harmful to an entity that prefers energy patterned with what we consider 'negative' (I don't, personally, consider any emotion bad, ftr).

Elliptic
05-23-2006, 03:04 PM
I must admit, if someone started trying to give me hugs and love while I was trying to beat their ass, it might give me a pause...but only a pause; I'd resume soon enough and probably be annoyed at my target's seemingly irrational act.

Once again, I stick to my initial question: whom did you piss off?

Pavlov's Dog
05-24-2006, 02:26 AM
it might just be because I have never really seen a psionic sort of outbreak in any form at all, but if I were being vamped upon, I would almost certainly figure out who/what was behind it, and begin to avoid them/it with a fervor unmatched throughout the ages of this planet.

the alternative would occur if I happened to have a directed energy weapon on hand, and somewhat altered tactics would apply, as you could probably guess. but sadly, all of my directed energy projects seem to be more along the lines of directed explosions. and the military has a very solid resolve to not give me better designs.

but thats just me. you probably do have better ideas regarding defense against this sort of thing. so just do whatever you feel like, and Ill hope it works out in the end.

Shiningwolf
10-28-2007, 07:46 AM
christ...you were blown off your chair? btw could you describe what the shape looked like? was it a person? a goat? btw to me it sounds like poltergeist activity....or a mage....