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03-23-2007, 07:19 PM
dark
08-28-2006, 09:19 PM
Anyone know of any tutorials or help for this. I already do a few things involving it, but not intentionally.
(wake up and watch the clock for 2 hours and only 2 minutes pass according to it, and sending mental pictures of what i'm currently seeing to myself in the past.)
Azrael
08-29-2006, 01:03 AM
Sorry. Chronokinesis isn't affecting time. Its affecting your perception of time. Which does help in a 10 hour car ride. But its not really psionic.
dark
08-29-2006, 01:33 AM
Sorry. Chronokinesis isn't affecting time. Its affecting your perception of time. Which does help in a 10 hour car ride. But its not really psionic.
That is one definition, it is important to remember that "chronokinesis" is not technically a word according to dictionaries, so it doesn't matter much how one defines it, it's not used enough to get an official definition. Also my second example of chronokinesis that happens to me seems not to have anything to do with your definition, and the exact definition of time seems to have to do with Einstein's relativity theories, So really anything can be said about the subject. (if only i understood Einstein's theories)
Winged_Wolf
08-31-2006, 05:32 AM
Are you talking about arriving at a destination earlier than you should for the speed you were traveling, or just talking about messing with your own perception of the passage of time? Two very different things.
Vladimir
08-31-2006, 05:40 PM
Distortion of time perception is both nifty and relatively easy to use. I'd say just use that, being as I've never heard of time manipulation being used ever.
Winged_Wolf
08-31-2006, 07:07 PM
Well, at your ripe old age, there are a lot of things you haven't heard of. ;)
Distortion of your perception of time is not a psi ability. Time manipulation is a psi ability--most likely it has something to do with introducing or removing energy into the time/energy/work equation without altering the other factors. Oddly enough. Well, lots of psi abilities are odd, and this is one of the oddest.
Vladimir
09-01-2006, 02:59 PM
WW: I'm not going to recommend doing something I've never heard of happening. Wasn't implying that, because I've never heard of it, it hasn't happened.
Winged_Wolf
09-01-2006, 03:38 PM
You just did hear of it....or did you mean offline? ;D
Vladimir
09-04-2006, 04:14 PM
I said I've never heard of it HAPPENING.
Winged_Wolf
09-04-2006, 05:43 PM
I know several local psis who've done it on road trips. Set the cruise control, and arrive like a half hour early. <G>
Anazrieth
09-04-2006, 05:49 PM
Perhaps this is more due to... perhaps... bad basic math skills.... rather than psionic skill? Just a thunk. I could be wrong.
Winged_Wolf
09-04-2006, 06:23 PM
Not unless the road signs are WAY off.
dark
09-05-2006, 08:45 PM
Are you talking about arriving at a destination earlier than you should for the speed you were traveling, or just talking about messing with your own perception of the passage of time? Two very different things.
Well, not traveling from place to place (I already know i've teleported a few times), but general manipulations with the dimension of time. (I've already sent information from me-future, to me-past; none of it of any real use though or under any real control)
Izure
09-05-2006, 09:51 PM
Uh...you've TELEPORTED? Are you sure about that? How did you do it?
dark
09-05-2006, 10:44 PM
Uh...you've TELEPORTED? Are you sure about that? How did you do it?
I have an image in my mind of where i want to go (usually my bedroom to get something) and i don't have anything else on my mind but getting to that place. When you get up or start going (i start running) there you're already there with no memory of the inbetween. Also CD, and MP3 players on you can't seem to keep functioning, and shut off after making a bunch of noises they don't usually make. (haven't broken any yet)
Winged_Wolf
09-05-2006, 10:47 PM
Any witnesses?
dark
09-06-2006, 02:00 AM
Any witnesses?
No, i only started noticing after the cd player started screwing up, and thought about what i did to make it do that, only to realize there's a complete hole in my memory from getting from point a to b. (and it happened multiple times with disk reading electronics)
Winged_Wolf
09-06-2006, 03:55 AM
I recommend duplicating it with a witness, then. Otherwise, it's hard to say whether or not you simply blacked out that portion of a perfectly ordinary walk.
G2_Wolf
09-06-2006, 10:37 PM
Disk reading electronics, and running, aren't really friends.... So you can easily blame the cd player problems on the fact you are using them WHILE RUNNING, which will cause the CD to skip and bounce around inside, which will cause damage to either the cd, the player, or both.
As for the not remembering stuff between point A and point B, I have done that tons of time. It's not messing with time or teleportation or whatever you think it is. Most of the time I have done it, I was really distracted with my own thoughts to even notice I was walking in between points A and B. That is probably what you are doing....
Azrael
09-07-2006, 01:02 AM
I agree with winged wolf, you should ask a friend to run with you
galen
09-21-2006, 06:11 AM
I probably shouldn't be reviving a 2-week old thread, but I couldn't resist giving my opinion: Self hypnosis.
It accounts for the memory loss and your physical self arriving at your intended destination. This scientifically documented phenomenon often occurs while driving motor vehicles. The driver “zones out” and just drives. They can negotiate turns and usually snap out of it when another vehicle comes with a certain proximity (depending on relative speed) when higher cognitive function is necessary. The driver can arrive at their destination and not remember how they actually got there.
I only know of 1 “documented” teleportation case. The fellow was never able to successfully repeat the experiment.
Winged_Wolf
09-21-2006, 06:53 AM
I've done the driver mez thing. lol
Mercurius
09-22-2006, 06:48 PM
I dont know how much you poeple trust ANKA but seeing you have some of his articles on your site i guess you'll trust him on this too.
I was talking to ANKA the other night about chronokinesis and asked him if it's possible and if it's been done and he said it has been done by some people he knows, just like WW described it, on cruise control.
RogueWolf
10-16-2006, 08:49 PM
I know this thing is old but it sparked interest and now I have a question.
Would it be possible to slow others perception of time, or slow time for others. In the same way as a car trip. Then appear to disappear from one place and reappear in another. Of course Im talking about crossing a small space. You know maybe across a room, or in the odd circumstance, like a fight, moving around the person.
Winged_Wolf
10-16-2006, 11:05 PM
There is, again, a huge difference between slowing time, and slowing someone's perception of time. One of these things registers on a clock, the other does not.
I expect that slowing someone's perception of time would indeed be possible via psi, perhaps via nervous system ability or telepathy, but I know of no specific instances of this. It's a very interesting application to think about, however...
RogueWolf
10-17-2006, 03:11 PM
So what about the actual slowing of time itself. I know that's a grand scale. In therory you would have to effect the whole of the universe for that to happen. The question is, I suppose, has anyone worked, or heard of workings with actually effecting time?
Winged_Wolf
10-17-2006, 03:44 PM
Actually, one can theorize a bubble around the focus point of the distortion that fades away into the normal-time background, rather than affecting 'all of time'.
Most of the things I've heard of people doing involve affecting a single system, and the result is that if you're traveling from point A to point B at X speed, you get there either much faster, or much later, than you should have for that speed (with the speed remaining too constant to account for the variation).
Vernand
10-19-2006, 01:45 PM
I've tried workings on actually affecting time. I gave that up a long time ago. I've done the driver things heaps of times. I've started doing it again lately, subconsiously, when I'm late for work. I think I made a post about it once.
My problem with it is that I can't fully comprehend time. It's something I live inside of, and can't see it from any other angles, so in my failure to understand the nature of time, I can't manipulate it on that level.
RogueWolf
10-20-2006, 12:01 AM
Well what do you do when you tried to effect time. What did you focus one. Is it something you feel you are just not able to do, or something that can't be done at all, or just that you don't know where to start?
G2_Wolf
10-20-2006, 01:28 AM
Don't focus on anything is what I do.
That, and sit and think, while not focusing on anything outside of my mind... Passes time quickly and gets stuff figured out at the same time.
Vernand
10-20-2006, 09:32 AM
Well... I see time in two parts. I see a foreground time that can be manipulated, while a background time passes on regardless of how the foreground time is twisted. Background static, while foreground is maliable.
I just can't get my mind around how background time and foreground time intermingle and work with each other, and I can't understand how one can be tinkered with while the other can't be.
I just don't know enough to be able to progress any further.
rowinha
10-22-2006, 03:44 AM
I just can't get my mind around how background time and foreground time intermingle and work with each other, and I can't understand how one can be tinkered with while the other can't be.
I just don't know enough to be able to progress any further.
I would recommend looking into the physics of time dilation (both due to velocity and to gravity), and how such time dilation appears to an impartial observer, both inside and outside the system. (clarification: system + surroundings = universe, so the change in time flow would occur in the system, and any unaffected point outside of that would be the surroundings.)
Understanding the general workings of time in relation to the forces and space tends to lend itself to beginning to understand what time IS.
Also, remembering that there is no such thing as a truly Objective frame of reference (rather, there might be a generally consensual frame of reference that we all just happen to be in) might help.
~$0.02
08-28-2006, 09:19 PM
Anyone know of any tutorials or help for this. I already do a few things involving it, but not intentionally.
(wake up and watch the clock for 2 hours and only 2 minutes pass according to it, and sending mental pictures of what i'm currently seeing to myself in the past.)
Azrael
08-29-2006, 01:03 AM
Sorry. Chronokinesis isn't affecting time. Its affecting your perception of time. Which does help in a 10 hour car ride. But its not really psionic.
dark
08-29-2006, 01:33 AM
Sorry. Chronokinesis isn't affecting time. Its affecting your perception of time. Which does help in a 10 hour car ride. But its not really psionic.
That is one definition, it is important to remember that "chronokinesis" is not technically a word according to dictionaries, so it doesn't matter much how one defines it, it's not used enough to get an official definition. Also my second example of chronokinesis that happens to me seems not to have anything to do with your definition, and the exact definition of time seems to have to do with Einstein's relativity theories, So really anything can be said about the subject. (if only i understood Einstein's theories)
Winged_Wolf
08-31-2006, 05:32 AM
Are you talking about arriving at a destination earlier than you should for the speed you were traveling, or just talking about messing with your own perception of the passage of time? Two very different things.
Vladimir
08-31-2006, 05:40 PM
Distortion of time perception is both nifty and relatively easy to use. I'd say just use that, being as I've never heard of time manipulation being used ever.
Winged_Wolf
08-31-2006, 07:07 PM
Well, at your ripe old age, there are a lot of things you haven't heard of. ;)
Distortion of your perception of time is not a psi ability. Time manipulation is a psi ability--most likely it has something to do with introducing or removing energy into the time/energy/work equation without altering the other factors. Oddly enough. Well, lots of psi abilities are odd, and this is one of the oddest.
Vladimir
09-01-2006, 02:59 PM
WW: I'm not going to recommend doing something I've never heard of happening. Wasn't implying that, because I've never heard of it, it hasn't happened.
Winged_Wolf
09-01-2006, 03:38 PM
You just did hear of it....or did you mean offline? ;D
Vladimir
09-04-2006, 04:14 PM
I said I've never heard of it HAPPENING.
Winged_Wolf
09-04-2006, 05:43 PM
I know several local psis who've done it on road trips. Set the cruise control, and arrive like a half hour early. <G>
Anazrieth
09-04-2006, 05:49 PM
Perhaps this is more due to... perhaps... bad basic math skills.... rather than psionic skill? Just a thunk. I could be wrong.
Winged_Wolf
09-04-2006, 06:23 PM
Not unless the road signs are WAY off.
dark
09-05-2006, 08:45 PM
Are you talking about arriving at a destination earlier than you should for the speed you were traveling, or just talking about messing with your own perception of the passage of time? Two very different things.
Well, not traveling from place to place (I already know i've teleported a few times), but general manipulations with the dimension of time. (I've already sent information from me-future, to me-past; none of it of any real use though or under any real control)
Izure
09-05-2006, 09:51 PM
Uh...you've TELEPORTED? Are you sure about that? How did you do it?
dark
09-05-2006, 10:44 PM
Uh...you've TELEPORTED? Are you sure about that? How did you do it?
I have an image in my mind of where i want to go (usually my bedroom to get something) and i don't have anything else on my mind but getting to that place. When you get up or start going (i start running) there you're already there with no memory of the inbetween. Also CD, and MP3 players on you can't seem to keep functioning, and shut off after making a bunch of noises they don't usually make. (haven't broken any yet)
Winged_Wolf
09-05-2006, 10:47 PM
Any witnesses?
dark
09-06-2006, 02:00 AM
Any witnesses?
No, i only started noticing after the cd player started screwing up, and thought about what i did to make it do that, only to realize there's a complete hole in my memory from getting from point a to b. (and it happened multiple times with disk reading electronics)
Winged_Wolf
09-06-2006, 03:55 AM
I recommend duplicating it with a witness, then. Otherwise, it's hard to say whether or not you simply blacked out that portion of a perfectly ordinary walk.
G2_Wolf
09-06-2006, 10:37 PM
Disk reading electronics, and running, aren't really friends.... So you can easily blame the cd player problems on the fact you are using them WHILE RUNNING, which will cause the CD to skip and bounce around inside, which will cause damage to either the cd, the player, or both.
As for the not remembering stuff between point A and point B, I have done that tons of time. It's not messing with time or teleportation or whatever you think it is. Most of the time I have done it, I was really distracted with my own thoughts to even notice I was walking in between points A and B. That is probably what you are doing....
Azrael
09-07-2006, 01:02 AM
I agree with winged wolf, you should ask a friend to run with you
galen
09-21-2006, 06:11 AM
I probably shouldn't be reviving a 2-week old thread, but I couldn't resist giving my opinion: Self hypnosis.
It accounts for the memory loss and your physical self arriving at your intended destination. This scientifically documented phenomenon often occurs while driving motor vehicles. The driver “zones out” and just drives. They can negotiate turns and usually snap out of it when another vehicle comes with a certain proximity (depending on relative speed) when higher cognitive function is necessary. The driver can arrive at their destination and not remember how they actually got there.
I only know of 1 “documented” teleportation case. The fellow was never able to successfully repeat the experiment.
Winged_Wolf
09-21-2006, 06:53 AM
I've done the driver mez thing. lol
Mercurius
09-22-2006, 06:48 PM
I dont know how much you poeple trust ANKA but seeing you have some of his articles on your site i guess you'll trust him on this too.
I was talking to ANKA the other night about chronokinesis and asked him if it's possible and if it's been done and he said it has been done by some people he knows, just like WW described it, on cruise control.
RogueWolf
10-16-2006, 08:49 PM
I know this thing is old but it sparked interest and now I have a question.
Would it be possible to slow others perception of time, or slow time for others. In the same way as a car trip. Then appear to disappear from one place and reappear in another. Of course Im talking about crossing a small space. You know maybe across a room, or in the odd circumstance, like a fight, moving around the person.
Winged_Wolf
10-16-2006, 11:05 PM
There is, again, a huge difference between slowing time, and slowing someone's perception of time. One of these things registers on a clock, the other does not.
I expect that slowing someone's perception of time would indeed be possible via psi, perhaps via nervous system ability or telepathy, but I know of no specific instances of this. It's a very interesting application to think about, however...
RogueWolf
10-17-2006, 03:11 PM
So what about the actual slowing of time itself. I know that's a grand scale. In therory you would have to effect the whole of the universe for that to happen. The question is, I suppose, has anyone worked, or heard of workings with actually effecting time?
Winged_Wolf
10-17-2006, 03:44 PM
Actually, one can theorize a bubble around the focus point of the distortion that fades away into the normal-time background, rather than affecting 'all of time'.
Most of the things I've heard of people doing involve affecting a single system, and the result is that if you're traveling from point A to point B at X speed, you get there either much faster, or much later, than you should have for that speed (with the speed remaining too constant to account for the variation).
Vernand
10-19-2006, 01:45 PM
I've tried workings on actually affecting time. I gave that up a long time ago. I've done the driver things heaps of times. I've started doing it again lately, subconsiously, when I'm late for work. I think I made a post about it once.
My problem with it is that I can't fully comprehend time. It's something I live inside of, and can't see it from any other angles, so in my failure to understand the nature of time, I can't manipulate it on that level.
RogueWolf
10-20-2006, 12:01 AM
Well what do you do when you tried to effect time. What did you focus one. Is it something you feel you are just not able to do, or something that can't be done at all, or just that you don't know where to start?
G2_Wolf
10-20-2006, 01:28 AM
Don't focus on anything is what I do.
That, and sit and think, while not focusing on anything outside of my mind... Passes time quickly and gets stuff figured out at the same time.
Vernand
10-20-2006, 09:32 AM
Well... I see time in two parts. I see a foreground time that can be manipulated, while a background time passes on regardless of how the foreground time is twisted. Background static, while foreground is maliable.
I just can't get my mind around how background time and foreground time intermingle and work with each other, and I can't understand how one can be tinkered with while the other can't be.
I just don't know enough to be able to progress any further.
rowinha
10-22-2006, 03:44 AM
I just can't get my mind around how background time and foreground time intermingle and work with each other, and I can't understand how one can be tinkered with while the other can't be.
I just don't know enough to be able to progress any further.
I would recommend looking into the physics of time dilation (both due to velocity and to gravity), and how such time dilation appears to an impartial observer, both inside and outside the system. (clarification: system + surroundings = universe, so the change in time flow would occur in the system, and any unaffected point outside of that would be the surroundings.)
Understanding the general workings of time in relation to the forces and space tends to lend itself to beginning to understand what time IS.
Also, remembering that there is no such thing as a truly Objective frame of reference (rather, there might be a generally consensual frame of reference that we all just happen to be in) might help.
~$0.02