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03-23-2007, 06:56 PM
Pavlov's Dog
10-25-2006, 07:12 AM

I was wondering why it is that my way of attempting to see the future is so different from everyone elses.

It seems like every website or book I find on the topic goes all the way up to the level of looking into the future to see what card you draw out of a deck.

Now, don't get me wrong. Or, at the very least, don't automatically try to get me wrong from the beginning. I have nothing against practicing with cards. Never done that myself, but whatever works. I really just want to know why it is that people don't ever try to go farther than the cards. When I'm trying to hone my abilities at reliable sensing of events two or three months in advance (by meditation alone is the big jump this time, I'd rather not have to go to sleep to see that far), I'm actually not looking for cards. Particularly not looking at what cards I draw out of the deck nine weeks from now.

Does anyone have any further insights on either material that might help, or ways to find such material? Google really doesn't have anything non-fluffy beyond those cards, so try to exclude search engines (unless they're search engines specifically for psionics stuff or something).

rowinha
10-25-2006, 09:51 AM

You could try google scholar (scholar.google.com) instead of just google. The number of results is much smaller, but I got some interesting results for <precognition long-term> and <precognition "far future">. I'm sure if you spend more than the five minutes I spent, you'll find reasonably useful results. :]

$0.02

G2_Wolf
10-26-2006, 12:15 AM

Precog'ing cards = money if you can do it accurately....

Blackjack, poker, whatever :)

Pavlov's Dog
10-26-2006, 03:19 AM

I kind of sort of don't believe in trying to use precognition for monetary gain. Call me crazy if you want. The single exception is the implied monetary gain of not having to pay insane doctor bills by using precognition to evade people and projectile weapons.

And I don't gamble either. Sorry.

As for google scholar, that might work, if it gave me actual articles/sources as opposed to excerpts of books. I'm starting to find that it prefers the book excerpts, which it then tries to sell to me. But my professors have somehow made it legal to ask that I use only scholarly journals as sources in my essays, so that's somewhat unescapable. So I'll try that this weekend or something, because I've got a nice 8-10 page essay to do right now.

Winged_Wolf
10-26-2006, 05:25 AM

I'd win the lottery if I could. lol

Vladimir
10-27-2006, 06:19 PM

I sincerely doubt anybody would pass up a lottery win.

Kitsune
10-27-2006, 06:44 PM

When I'm trying to hone my abilities at reliable sensing of events two or three months in advance (by meditation alone is the big jump this time, I'd rather not have to go to sleep to see that far), I'm actually not looking for cards. Particularly not looking at what cards I draw out of the deck nine weeks from now.


Well, cards are random. Other than knowing the 52 cards in the deck, your current knowledge will not affect your prediction. The constant number of cards in a deck can also give you statistics as to how well you are doing.
If you are looking at something like the progress of current events, or the result of a relationship etc etc, then your current knowledge comes into play. Even if you think you know almost nothing consciously about the events you are trying to predict, your subconscious can store information. In the case of current events, that can be things from news stories. If you are trying to predict if X and Y will stay together in 3 months, body language, subtle tones of voice, turns of phrase that mean nothing to you consciously can be affecting your prediction. Heck, even telepathy can come into play. You don't know for sure that you aren't using intuition instead of pure clairvoyance.
So in summary, cards don't give you many clues. Other things can do that.

Pavlov's Dog
11-10-2006, 02:48 AM

Okay, how about this. Standing in my backyard, trying to pull the nettles. Suddenly, I get the distinct feeling that I need to be ducking. I duck instantly, and a split second later, a sizable rock flies through the air at considerable speed right where my head was prior to ducking. My brothers run away giggling.

I tend to call that a success. Sometimes not, but that's only when I really NEED to go to the hospital with severe head injuries. But, just in case that's telepathy, how about another example?

Trying to sense whatever I can (sometime in january of 2006), I get a very short vision from about three months in advance. It's my father, and he's trying to tell me something that either has a negative connotation to it, or is in response to something negative (only possible because he seemed both disappointed and angry). Time is approximately 10 pm CST (very dark outside), and we meet in the "white room" (my families equivalent of the nice carpet room, into which nobody is supposed to go, but everyone does anyway). There are no lights on, but there is a single light in the dining room, which is where he entered from (I came up the stairs leading to the entryway). Overall visual effect is him being heavily shadowed from behind, almost like one of those anonymous speakers on crime shows, except his features were still barely visible.

How that could be telepathic or anything else, I don't know. My dad rarely thinks of things more than three weeks in advance. With the exception of my brothers, my other family members tend to not think about me at all. At the time, I was a rather happy person, so intuition tells me that it would be a failure at school. And my father is only rarely disappointed. There are about 24 hours in a standard day, during which a maximum of seven will be spent by my father during the night doing something that requires him to not be asleep. All seven of those hours are hours during which I am myself active. Nineteen lights or groups of lights in the white and dining rooms combined, with only one predicted to be on. Four ways to enter the white room at all, excluding windows. And having some or most of those factors coincide should provide a minorly higher statistical improbability of guessing them.

Sorry if seemed angry in that last paragraph. I don't really like to think about that vision, but it is the most recent one that would be difficult to attribute to telepathy or anything. It was also the day on which I stopped being happy. My father was trying to convince me that I didn't do anything wrong, and that there was no real lesson to be learned. Except, of course, that I do EVERYTHING wrong, and that it was all my fault.

I am such a failure. But that vision was accurate to the final detail, including furniture arrangement and dirt accumulation upon the carpet. So I get to see myself fail in advance. Precognition is such a useful skill.

XPWarrior3
11-14-2006, 01:50 AM

Yeah, precognition is a useful skill. As for myself, I've been an active, natural precog since I was 6. It wasn't until I was 14 and a half years old that I tried to gain control over the ability. It took me one full year and a few months to finally get a method that I was comfortable with and that worked well for me.

I was talking to ANKA once... either that or reading something that he sent to me... He or it said that psionics and using psionic abilities was like a "tug of war" game. If I remember correctly, it said that psionic abilities were largely a subconscious thing and that the difficulty with development for a few people was learning to reproduce the effects and loosen the subconscious' grip over whichever ability it was.

With that in mind I decided to figure out a new method that would be very useful. Eventually I came to the conclusion that the best way for me to gain control over my precog ability is to recognize it and then induce it. The idea was to loosen my subconscious' grip over the ability and hopefully that would work and it did. By recognizing I mean considering what was happening in my energy system at the time that I got a vision. I also looked for things like clarity and how often a vision would come to me and maybe how many times it came before the event happened. I also wrote the visions down to see if there were parts of it that I seemed to notice more than others. I tried meditation, but that didn't work out well for me. I only meditated for around 5 to 8 minutes and about 3 to 4 times a week and all that did was to make the preminitions clearer and more frequent.

After considering all of that I then tried to induce it. I took what I knew and I attempted to recreate the same feeling in my system and the effects that I felt on a physical and psychic level. I then focused for specific dates and times and at first I was correct around 4/10 times. Then as I kept on I got better. Now I don't have as many subconscious precog moments and I can precog an event with around 70 to 90% accuracy (varying). I've never gotten to 100% or even 91%... but at least it's progress.

I also wrote an article about it. If you want I could give it to you.

Winged_Wolf
11-14-2006, 03:11 AM

That would be awesome, XP.

XPWarrior3
11-14-2006, 09:07 PM

I'll post the article here. This is going to be a lengthy article, but I hope you find it of some help to you. This article is based off of my experiences so in here I'm not stating any right or wrong way to practice precog. If there's anything that you don't understand, please let me know so I can make what I meant to say clearer. Then I can revise the article to make it more understandable. Thanks in advance.


For those of you that don't know what precognition is, let me explain. Precognition is the ability that allows a psychic/psion to view/sense future events. It is the most common of all psychic abilities and the chances are that YOU have probably used it at some point in your life. In my opinion, precognition is the most common ability, but the most difficult ability to fully grasp and understand. I do not believe that we are given precognitive visions for a purpose. Reason being that most precoged events are very difficult to change. One of the reasons I am writing this article is because when I first started to gain control over my precognition, I saw little resources online. So this article is meant to help. Now let me start from the beginning.

I've been an active precog since I was little. To be specific I've been an active precog since around age 5 or 6. Precognition has always been one of my two primary abilities. It wasn't until I was in 8th grade that I had noticed that I was having more accurate and frequent visions/preminitions. They were so frequent that I sometimes couldn't tell the difference between a vision and reality. There were times when everything felt and looked so real and tangible that I would go about thinking that I actually lived that day out, only to have it happen later making me feel as if I had deja vu.

I enjoyed it a lot, but I knew something needed to be done about this. Before hand I always just let the preminitions come to me, and they always came in times when I didn't really need them. I wanted to control it. I went through many methods. I went online, but there was little resources on controlling precognition. Everyone was telling me that meditation was the key, but all that did was to make the precoged event clearer and even more frequent. I used an online method where I documented all the presumed precoged events that I had witnessed. I would have to say that method is what helped me develop the method that I have now. After a while of searching and trying different methods I came up with the conclusion that the main point of practice for precognition (in my case) would not be to control it (as in subdue it), but to recognize and induce it.

I had been using the online method that I had found about writing down the visions that I presumed were precoged events. I went back and reviewed the notes that I had written. I tried to recall everything that happened when I received those visions. I noticed that everytime I received a precognition my crown (the top of my head) always felt funny. It felt itchy and seemed to create a good amount of static. I also tried to link my daily activities with the occurrance of my visions, but there seemed to be no correlation.

So I came up with the conclusion that my crown must be linked somehow to my precognitions. This was then later confirmed by the Psion Guild and then by science. Yes science. Let me explain. At the crown of your head there is a section or part of the brain that functions for the use of sensory perceptoin (the Perietal Lobe). Refer to the image below.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/360000/images/_363368_brain_parts300.gif

So I used that as a starting point. Now that I knew that precognition was tied to the energy activities in my crown, I then concluded that only way to learn to induce precognition was to learn to control the energy activities in and around my crown.

I started off with awareness excercises that I had developed by myself and I used some that I found online. After that I then began to focus on my crown. I tried to recreate that same feeling of static and itchiness. When I first started off, I never had anything in mind. I just want to induce an actual precognition. I tried many things with my crown. I visualized the energy in my crown as antennae and then as satellite dishes and then as a fish net, but those were only giving me minimal results. It wasn't until later on in my energy working practices that I developed a method that has seemed to help me a lot. And with that method I am now able to induce precognition whenever I want.

When I started energy working I didn't really pay much attention to the actual energy work. I just knew that I was doing energy working and if I thought of something in one way then a certain effect would occur. Then as I progressed I began to notice patterns in energy. This became the basis of my energy working. I realized that many, if not all energies have patterns within them. I came to identify with these patterns as programs in a construct and key points in auras.

Keep in mind that I only knew that precognition was tied into the energy activities in and around my crown. As days, weeks and months passed I began to notice patterns in my precognitions. It also seemed to correlate with the energy working system that I had developed a while back.

*For reference to the system visit http://www.freewebs.com/psionicdojo/researchanddevelopment.htm. Scroll down to Color Frequency Spectrum System.

I noticed that every time I had a precognition, not only was there activity going on in my crown, but the activity always seemed to be of a low frequency. To be specific it had a strong vibration and was spaced out in intervals. It also seemed to feel like waves emitting from my crown. It was also and still is between orange and red according to the energy system that I developed. I also realized that my precognitions were more general than specific. So I then used the new knowledge that I had to induce precognitions. I started of with energy awareness excerises and then I focused on my crown. I then focused on increasing the energy activity and then I focused on altering the frequency. When I did that I then focused on the general idea on what I was looking for. An example would be focusing on a short segment of what was going to happen tomorrow in class.

The more I did this, the more success I had. I then started to become specific in what I was looking for. I focused on the exact date, the time, the location, who would be there and who wouldn't. Just things like that. I also had success in those areas. In all, the main point of this article is not to show you a way to subdue precognition, but a way to recognize your precognitions and inducing one through the knowledge that you get. Still though, the information can be used to subdue precognitions and stop them from becomming more frequent and for some people, stop them from occurring all together.

Now for those of you who aren't active pre-cogs, there is a way to gradually become one. These tips will help you become an active precog and giving in to your hunches will help too. Meditation is another key to actively gaining precognitive visions. The clearer your mind the better your perception of things -- ANYTHING IN GENERAL. Also remember the Color Frequency Spectrum System. Last but not least, find out what works well for you. There may be something in here that I haven't said that works well for you. Find it out. Experiment. I became the pre-cog that I am through trail and error. So learning from what I did and adding your own ideas may give you success. Also be sure to reread this article several times

Some Tips

Here are a few tips that I would like to share. For everyone that I've taught precognition to these are the tips I've given them. They have had varying success with them also.


1. Always try to find time to write down your presumed precognitions. Bear in mind that when I say presumed that means anything that you believe could be a precognition.

2. Always pay attention to changes in your perception (energy-wise and physically: such as sight and sound). Be sure to pay attention to how you feel in any part of your body and which part of your body seems to have more energy activity. Some of the people that I have taught have reported to confirm the feeling of energy in and around their crown and some of them even in the palms of their hands. Some even said that their sight went dim (as if to say that they were going blind), and that a "screen" (much like a television) would appear, showing them what they're looking for.

3. Pay attention to the actual vision itself. Try to pay close attention to how the vision presents itself to you. That would include how much detail you see, hear, taste, smell and feel and also how general the the vision is (things like -- the color shirt that that guy was wearing or where your hand was when that thing dropped, etc.). This is likely to help you when it comes to inducing a vision.

4. Also there is no place online that will teach you how to definitely induce and control a precognition OR what a precognition feels like (None that I know of anyway). So you would likely have to come up with a method that suites you.

5. You are the key to your own success. Different things work for different people so go ahead and find yours.

Good Luck!
~ XP

Bennu666
11-21-2006, 07:05 PM

Excellent article, I really like the ideas and reasoning behind your findings and system. I myself may have a phobia to letting my ability here go unchecked due to a childhood experience that was very emotional and scared the crap out of me. I was about 10 years old when me and my siblings and cousins where all having a sleep over and we where singing a round of "Row, row, Row your Boat, etc." When it came to me for my turn I suddenly realized my vision got dim and then next standing in our living room, there was a scream and before I knew it, my mother came running through the house from her bedroom engulfed in flames. She ran past me flailing and crashed through the living room window onto the front porch and burned I was suddenly there seeing nothing but a skull burning in a pyre of fire.

I was snapped out of it by my cousins who where trying to calm me down from hysterics crying and I just kept saying over and over "she's burning, she's burning". To this day it is still very clear and everytime I think about it it brings me almost to the brink of tears...Needless to say a week later My mom did fall asleep with a cigarette in bed, seconds away from burning to death she woke up out of a dead sleep to a pillar of fire right between her legs. That event is probably the catalyst that brought me on the path of the paranormal and practices I live by today.

But since then I fear I may subconciouly be guarded against seeing anything like that again concerning a loved one.

I do however have the standard flashes before something happens that helps me avoid situations. Many time people are present so it could be telepathy perhaps? For instance Boston is riddled with back alleys and lots of traffic. I always know when someone will be speeding out even from a block away, or turn a corner before I reach the intersection. Who will get off a train or bus and when, walk around a corner into my path etc etc. Another thing I tend to do is what I call far-seeing. I involutarily always look days ahead and I see or interpret them like blocks or stepping "squares" each one seems to represent a day and I "read" them by pattern, color, atmosphere, vibration and feeling. I can generally sense a bad week or good one by how "bright" or dim they are. It almost looks like a path ahead of me and it's a matter of reading if it leads into a dark forest or a sunny meadow. When I do put forth effort I can go farther to weeks or months, but then my old fears kick in and I start feeling that "do I really want to see" feeling kick in and pull back before a vivid enough vision can form.

In any case I would like to see about utilizing the spectrum colors and sensations you metioned and the tips you posted (did you deliberately mask them? They don't show up on my screen but I knew something was there.) And try to delve deeper into these paths. I think I could develop this so I can handle anything I see now and especially in this day and age I'm starting to feel it's essential to my survival.

Again great article and theories.

B

XPWarrior3
01-04-2007, 12:09 AM

Thanks for your comment. As for your experience... all I can say is wow. I'm one of those that haven't had traumatic experiences. I feel fortunate. As for the spectrum.. here's a link to where I have it posted online if you would still like to look at it. http://www.freewebs.com/psionicdojo/researchanddevelopment.htm

Bennu666
01-04-2007, 12:18 AM

Awesome, thanks. I did read this article as well. Great information. I have been working at it since I first read your post and article.

Phoenix
02-08-2007, 09:13 PM

Yeah, great... So what your saying is that specific energentic signatures left behind can trigger or help induce a precognitive vison or premonition?

~Phoenix~

arah
02-09-2007, 03:14 AM

Not really ones that are left behind, but you find out what energy is where during an uncontrolled premonition and the replicate it. At least that’s what I got from this thing and it works pretty well for me.

XPWarrior3
02-19-2007, 03:23 AM

Not really ones that are left behind, but you find out what energy is where during an uncontrolled premonition and the replicate it. At least that’s what I got from this thing and it works pretty well for me.

Yes, what arah said.