Winged_Wolf
03-23-2007, 04:11 PM
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Kitsune (http://www.psionguild.org/forums/member.php?u=208)
I very much doubt you alter the structure of the crystal by programming it.
Why would Silicon's element status make it ok to program? Does the same go for diamond?
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Winged_Wolf (http://www.psionguild.org/forums/member.php?u=3)
Diamond is carbon. I know it's been pointed out that silicon and carbon have a lot of similarities, and silicon might be used as a basis for life just as carbon is. On earth, a few organisms incorporate silicon--diatoms use it to create a shell.
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Kitsune (http://www.psionguild.org/forums/member.php?u=208)
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Originally Posted by Winged_Wolf http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/buttons/PGPro/viewpost.gif (http://www.psionguild.org/forums/showthread.php?p=6695#post6695)
Diamond is carbon. I know it's been pointed out that silicon and carbon have a lot of similarities, and silicon might be used as a basis for life just as carbon is. On earth, a few organisms incorporate silicon--diatoms use it to create a shell.
Yeah, I know. I was just wondering if programming diamonds is ok, since carbon is an element, but programming quartz is wrong.
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Winged_Wolf (http://www.psionguild.org/forums/member.php?u=3)
I don't know, I guess it depends on your beliefs. I personally don't have a problem programming anything.
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Pavlov's Dog (http://www.psionguild.org/forums/member.php?u=30)
thats the great thing about beliefs. when i feel that it would be wrong to create a partially sentient energy being by manipulating a crystal directly, and thus condemning it to an extremely long life of non-use, thats my own belief. and its not that i only have a thing about not programming quartz, i really do not believe that it is right to program anything that is not formed out of energy. which is virtually everything that is not an energy based construct.
but thats just my belief. i have no evidence to support it. all i do know is that if i wasnt born into a human body, and by some terrible misunderstanding my consciousness was put into a crystal of some sort, i would spend the remainder of my exceedingly long life being pissed off at absolutely everything. everyone who touched me would get a crystal cut.
bear in mind that the only significant difference between that and my current condition is that i expect this life to be rather short, particularly when compared to the life of a crystal.
anyways though, thats just my own belief. you should form your own beliefs, because prolonged contact with my beliefs tends to have adverse affects upon people. and not if theyre wrong or right, just being around me at all causes problems. so you should do whats best for yourself, and forget everything i may ever have mentioned to you and decide that i'm crazy and never attempt to communicate with me again.
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Bennu666 (http://www.psionguild.org/forums/member.php?u=326)
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Originally Posted by Pavlov's Dog http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/buttons/PGPro/viewpost.gif (http://www.psionguild.org/forums/showthread.php?p=6666#post6666)
i guess that part of me believes that if you program the crystal itself, you alter the structure of it, and ruin it for use with/as anything else. and that probably makes no sense, so i'll just shut up again.
While I agree with the others, I can see what you mean here. I sometimes find it hard to outright program a crystal for this same reason. But when I really need a stone to focus on one particular function I will program it to keep that program running. This usually follows a process of finding the right one for the job. My major stones like my large double terminated crystals I keep free from single programs. Contructs are a good idea, overall I say if it works stick with it.
I don't see flaming though, just opinions that differ.=)
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Pavlov's Dog (http://www.psionguild.org/forums/member.php?u=30)
Oh, there's always flaming. Having an opinion that differs from that of the rest of the population is like trying to strike a match. If the two differ too much, there's going to be a flame eventually. Unless you're underwater or in a non-oxygen environment, and then you need my special matches that burn anywhere. In concept, I haven't actually made any yet, because all but two of the ingredients are high explosives. Difficult to afford on my new college budget.
And beyond that, the perception of a flame or attempted flame is nearly constant (for me, at least). Which is pretty awesome, and adds to the effect of flames that were intended by their creator to be flames. Sadly, they never seem to see that augmentation as a good thing, and flame me worse for it.
It's a nice cycle I've fallen into, and from which I cannot escape. And it's become a major theme of my non-safe blog. And now I get to check back in a while to see if this has made it into the rant section.
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Winged_Wolf (http://www.psionguild.org/forums/member.php?u=3)
It's entirely a perception--you appear to take any form of criticism or disagreement as a flame. Doubtless you will also believe that this observation is a flame. Of course it isn't, as no one has attacked you.
Back to the original topic: as for using quartz to make a shield, if you're going to program crystals (or embed constructs in crystals, same thing really) to create a shield, why do you need two?
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Vladimir (http://www.psionguild.org/forums/member.php?u=121)
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How do you know constructs can really become self-aware?
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Oipo (http://www.psionguild.org/forums/member.php?u=369)
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Kitsune (http://www.psionguild.org/forums/member.php?u=208)
I very much doubt you alter the structure of the crystal by programming it.
Why would Silicon's element status make it ok to program? Does the same go for diamond?
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Winged_Wolf (http://www.psionguild.org/forums/member.php?u=3)
Diamond is carbon. I know it's been pointed out that silicon and carbon have a lot of similarities, and silicon might be used as a basis for life just as carbon is. On earth, a few organisms incorporate silicon--diatoms use it to create a shell.
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Kitsune (http://www.psionguild.org/forums/member.php?u=208)
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Originally Posted by Winged_Wolf http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/buttons/PGPro/viewpost.gif (http://www.psionguild.org/forums/showthread.php?p=6695#post6695)
Diamond is carbon. I know it's been pointed out that silicon and carbon have a lot of similarities, and silicon might be used as a basis for life just as carbon is. On earth, a few organisms incorporate silicon--diatoms use it to create a shell.
Yeah, I know. I was just wondering if programming diamonds is ok, since carbon is an element, but programming quartz is wrong.
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Winged_Wolf (http://www.psionguild.org/forums/member.php?u=3)
I don't know, I guess it depends on your beliefs. I personally don't have a problem programming anything.
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Pavlov's Dog (http://www.psionguild.org/forums/member.php?u=30)
thats the great thing about beliefs. when i feel that it would be wrong to create a partially sentient energy being by manipulating a crystal directly, and thus condemning it to an extremely long life of non-use, thats my own belief. and its not that i only have a thing about not programming quartz, i really do not believe that it is right to program anything that is not formed out of energy. which is virtually everything that is not an energy based construct.
but thats just my belief. i have no evidence to support it. all i do know is that if i wasnt born into a human body, and by some terrible misunderstanding my consciousness was put into a crystal of some sort, i would spend the remainder of my exceedingly long life being pissed off at absolutely everything. everyone who touched me would get a crystal cut.
bear in mind that the only significant difference between that and my current condition is that i expect this life to be rather short, particularly when compared to the life of a crystal.
anyways though, thats just my own belief. you should form your own beliefs, because prolonged contact with my beliefs tends to have adverse affects upon people. and not if theyre wrong or right, just being around me at all causes problems. so you should do whats best for yourself, and forget everything i may ever have mentioned to you and decide that i'm crazy and never attempt to communicate with me again.
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Bennu666 (http://www.psionguild.org/forums/member.php?u=326)
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Originally Posted by Pavlov's Dog http://www.psionguild.org/forums/images/buttons/PGPro/viewpost.gif (http://www.psionguild.org/forums/showthread.php?p=6666#post6666)
i guess that part of me believes that if you program the crystal itself, you alter the structure of it, and ruin it for use with/as anything else. and that probably makes no sense, so i'll just shut up again.
While I agree with the others, I can see what you mean here. I sometimes find it hard to outright program a crystal for this same reason. But when I really need a stone to focus on one particular function I will program it to keep that program running. This usually follows a process of finding the right one for the job. My major stones like my large double terminated crystals I keep free from single programs. Contructs are a good idea, overall I say if it works stick with it.
I don't see flaming though, just opinions that differ.=)
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Pavlov's Dog (http://www.psionguild.org/forums/member.php?u=30)
Oh, there's always flaming. Having an opinion that differs from that of the rest of the population is like trying to strike a match. If the two differ too much, there's going to be a flame eventually. Unless you're underwater or in a non-oxygen environment, and then you need my special matches that burn anywhere. In concept, I haven't actually made any yet, because all but two of the ingredients are high explosives. Difficult to afford on my new college budget.
And beyond that, the perception of a flame or attempted flame is nearly constant (for me, at least). Which is pretty awesome, and adds to the effect of flames that were intended by their creator to be flames. Sadly, they never seem to see that augmentation as a good thing, and flame me worse for it.
It's a nice cycle I've fallen into, and from which I cannot escape. And it's become a major theme of my non-safe blog. And now I get to check back in a while to see if this has made it into the rant section.
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Winged_Wolf (http://www.psionguild.org/forums/member.php?u=3)
It's entirely a perception--you appear to take any form of criticism or disagreement as a flame. Doubtless you will also believe that this observation is a flame. Of course it isn't, as no one has attacked you.
Back to the original topic: as for using quartz to make a shield, if you're going to program crystals (or embed constructs in crystals, same thing really) to create a shield, why do you need two?
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Vladimir (http://www.psionguild.org/forums/member.php?u=121)
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How do you know constructs can really become self-aware?
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Oipo (http://www.psionguild.org/forums/member.php?u=369)
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